Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GF13-0


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete all, except Shining Gundam --Steve (Stephen)talk 04:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

GF13-0
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Let me start by saying that Gundam is important and we have many Gundam-related articles that meet our inclusion standards. These, however, do not. This batch of 18 mobile fighters is neither important nor notable. Sure, it is perfectly possible to find primary sources (i.e. the television series) that can be used to document these, but the search to find out-of-universe secondary sources appears to be futile.

In some of our previous discussions regarding other Gundam articles, there were proposals to mass-merge many articles together. If there is an encyclopedia article to be found here, it certainly won't be made by a mass cut-and-paste into a single article.

The following articles are nominated for deletion:

If anyone has a reason to move any of these into individual nominations, please say so. --- RockMFR 02:30, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete all: None of these articles assert notability. Even their importance is scarce, but importance and popularity are nothing to do with notability, they are irrelevant towards an article's existence. --Teggles 02:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, I have to agree. There is really no assertion of notability. I don't feel you need a redirect either, because this is not going to be a commonly if at all searched subject. -- Random Say it here! 02:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all but one As much as I like Gundam, that's too many. I vote keep the main character's (shining gundam). --Whsitchy 03:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That particular article is now withdrawn. --- RockMFR 23:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete all per above. Unsourced fancruft. MER-C 12:03, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge and Rewrite: I would say to just merge into two seperate articles (Major and Minor Mobile suit pages) and trim down the articles to reduce plot summary due to the previous articles have too much plot detail and make the summary a lot less like a cheap copy from MAHQ.net, since character pages or plot material would be much more appropriate for minor plot details, then personally add sources from the episodes and other real world facts through other sources. -Adv193 00:28, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge: I think it would be a good idea to just merge these articles with their Gundam pilots from the Manga and Anime...The ones with insignificant pilots and importance, such as Tequila gundam or Toro gundam should be deleted or merged into an article called Minor Gundams from the G Gundam Series-ShadowStange11 18:13, 28 May 2007 (EST)
 * Comment: If you like to a see a merged article of minor mobile suits check out-List of minor mobile suits in Gundam Wing which has many of Gundam Wing's mobile suits together with sources and summaries that aren't too long with the Technical data in an infobox. -Adv193 01:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge all to a List article, which can be separated by series for convenience. The list can be in the form of a table where certain story-relevant information (e.g. faction, pilot's name, etc.) can be included. Mecha data should be off-loaded to some other website that can be linked as an external link from the List article. Existing articles should be redirected to the List article. --Polaron | Talk 01:18, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge to a List article as per previous work on minor MS/characters. Jtrainor 21:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions.  -- Neier 04:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete all but Shining Gundam and Master Gundam since they are the series' main protagonist and antagonist's units
 * Your argument is invalid. Their importance doesn't matter. Read WP:NOTABILITY. It clearly states that importance and popularity have nothing to do with notability; notability is when there are multiple reliable sources for the subject. --Teggles 01:21, 2 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Merge As with Adv193, I feel that the merging of the above articles into seperate list articles based on the significace each has within the overall plot of the series would be best. Azureman 14:35, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge the minor characters into a single page. Major characters keep their pages.  This seems in keeping with how other fictional character situations are handled.  The characters from Brave New World ahve all been made redirects to the novel's article; they seem more notable than a long list of robots... &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 21:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.