Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GN-001 Gundam Exia


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The result was Nomination Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) MrKIA11 (talk) 15:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

GN-001 Gundam Exia

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Written almost entirely in-universe; no assertion of external notability. TallNapoleon (talk) 11:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep While article clearly needs better sources, notabilty is asserted at the beginning of the article and one of the first things mentioned is an out-of-universe example of influence. Edward321 (talk) 16:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Preceedural Keep, this was nominated purely in retaliation for comments in Articles for deletion/List of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 mobile units. Also WP:IDONTLIKEIT per nominator's userpage.  76.116.247.15 (talk) 18:42, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: In fact it was nominated because someone suggested I take a look at it, and I did not see much notable at all. I apologize, I did miss the bit about the race car, but that really is the only notability asserted here, and I don't believe that that qualifies as enough for this to have its own article--it makes more sense to mention that in the article either about that particular racer (assuming they're notable) or the main Gundam article. Also, I have no issue with articles about popular culture--what I have an issue with more than anything is with popular culture lists (see Adolf Hitler in popular culture for a particularly demonstrative example). My issue with this article is that almost all of it is written in-universe, and that I just don't see that this mech is particularly notable outside of that universe. TallNapoleon (talk) 18:53, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I just did a lot of cleanup on the main page for this, and removed all the in-universe stuff. What we have for its notability is that it influenced the design of a race-car, and that Bandai made a number of models out of it. I personally don't feel that that is sufficiently notable. But I feel that the article is much better now, and I would have less of an issue with it being kept. TallNapoleon (talk) 19:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, sufficiently important, and with real world content. DGG (talk) 03:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to/Create List of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 mecha, as seems like other Gundam series were so amalgamated. 70.55.203.112 (talk) 05:08, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as nontrivial and unoriginal research and because we are a collection of info. “I don’t like it” is NOT a reason for deletion.  Passes WP:V and WP:N.--209.247.22.85 (talk) 05:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I just don't see it passing WP:N. I think that the bit about the race car should be covered in the article about that particular race car, or in the main Gundam article itself. But I don't see this one particular mech needing its own article based on the sources cited. TallNapoleon (talk) 07:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In fact, I see no problem in that source. In the source, it specifically stated that it is related and specially designed after this particular fictional unit, which is sufficient as a source supporting that this thing indeed has notability.  If your argument is that the race car is from the company that produce toys of this anime, you might have some ground to claim that is it in fact more of a dependent source case, yet the source info is from a totally independent website and at least did some research telling people about the designer of the race car and this mecha, I think it suits WP:N very well as a source claiming the notability of this particular mecha.  Also, if notability is in question, the tags should be there before the AfD, in which I see none.  MythSearchertalk 20:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, I see a lot of bad faith in this nomination. I was here thinking I should go for a merge or delete, in the worst case, but seeing the source, and the further discussion of it, I don't think this is not notable.  This is in fact much better real world influence sourced than most of the other pages, even better than Walker (Star Wars), A-wing and Y-wing, with no real world influences like Millenium Falcon or X-wing. MythSearchertalk 20:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: If the subject is notable, it does not appear to be very notable from its article. I am perfectly willing to change my mind, but right now the article simply does not show why this particular Gundam is sufficiently notable to get its own article. Does it play a central role in the series? If so, then I can understand it getting its own article. Has it become a pop-culture icon, like the X-wing? Then it should get its own article. Being the basis for a race-car's paint scheme is a lot less clear. If someone more familiar with Gundam were to put on the page why this particular Gundam is notable and source it, I'd gladly drop my AFD. TallNapoleon (talk) 20:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply A race car is very different from the topic mecha, in which creates the notability of the topic as to why it was used as the colour scheme of the race car. And yes, it is the mecha used by the main character of the series Gundam 00, which has destroyed various cannon fodder and the last boss of the first season, as well as an obsessive enemy that appeared after the last boss was defeated, in which damaged this mecha and from the information of season 2 commercial, the main character piloted this damaged unit for 4 years around the world for travelling, and will still use this for some time in season 2 before he gets on his new mecha(if any, say, like the promotion material showed a similar mecha called 00 Gundam, which is named after the series, and figures the hero will get on it sooner or later, so it became only a question of if the hero of season 1 remains the main hero in season 2.)  Gundams are pop-culture icons, at least as a whole, and most of them receive a lot of attention individually, at least in Japan and the Asia area. MythSearchertalk 20:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, then nomination withdrawn. TallNapoleon (talk) 04:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


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