Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GWR 6800 Class 6880 Betton Grange


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Original discussion of August 2008 was improperly closed (although a merge was performed), and article as it presently stands is substantially different to the one which was listed at AFD in August 2008, so Procedural close, without prejudice to a new AFD being raised. Red rose64 (talk) 15:20, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

GWR 6800 Class 6880 Betton Grange

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I don't think this warrants it's own article, really. I'd be happy/like to merge this with Llangollen Railway if the result of this AfD is merge. Byeitical (talk) 21:46, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The article itself reads pretty poorly. Worth a mention I guess, and it has it's own registered charity behind it, but doesn't seem worthy of its own article given the volume of secondary coverage. Redirect and merge sounds sensible to me. Disclaimer: I know the nominator off-wiki. Ian ¹³  /t  22:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm working on cleaning up the article itself right now. Disclaimer: I know Ian13 off-wiki. Byeitical (talk) 22:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment -- note that these comments refer to the original incarnation of this article, which was merged (as proposed) in 2008, but the AfD was not closed properly.
 * All subsequent comments relate to the Octob1er 2011 incarnation. -- EdJogg (talk) 13:20, 2 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - Way too much sourced topic-specific content to be merged. The Llangollen Railway article is about the railway, not the locomotive.  Just like the Amtrak and Northeast Corridor articles are not about the EMD AEM-7 or EMD SDP40F which run or ran on them. --Oakshade (talk) 03:04, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Changed to "Weak Keep" as it does seem to be only the Llangollen Railway Society taking on this project. The details of the specifications do seem out of place in the Llangollen Railway, which is about the line, not the society. --Oakshade (talk) 04:31, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep, this project has received substantial converage in UK railway magazines. The locomotive has as strong a claim to notablility as Tornado does. Mjroots (talk) 07:02, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per Mjroots. Note also that this seems to be an AfD from August 2011, and the article does not have an AfD banner on it. Some sort of snafu which needs fixing. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep per Tagishsimon, except that the original AfD is from 2008 (ie 3 years ago) not 2011. A lot of water has passed under the bridge since then: the article was merged (to satisfy the AfD) and has since developed organically into its own article once more. Note that the first comment applies to the original article (the proposer also performed the merge and 'closed' the AfD). -- EdJogg (talk) 13:17, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.