Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gabon at the 2000 Summer Olympics


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:11, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Gabon at the 2000 Summer Olympics

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This article seems contrary to our policies that Wikipedia is not sprawling lists of statistics or routine sports reports. All we have here are some meagre sporting results of no great significance or notability. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:44, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:51, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. This isn't some small town sporting event. This is the Olympics. Every nation who has competed in the Olympics has a "(country) at the (year) Summer Olympics" type article and this is no exception. Some articles may seem like a statistic list because there isn't a whole lot of coverage for that country but it is all notable information. For example, Palau at the 2008 Summer Olympics is a similar type list that covers the entire event for the country so it isn't just a list of stats. The Gabon article can get the same way with just a little editing, not removal. Tavix | Talk  16:38, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per NSPORT "Nations participating at an individual Summer or Winter, Olympic or Paralympic Games are considered notable". Also part of a well-established series.  Lugnuts  (talk) 16:54, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per previous comments, and per established precedent and my comments made at Articles for deletion/Sudan at the 1968 Summer Olympics. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:30, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * @Colonel Warden: Some of your AfDs of late would seem to fly in the face of precedent - this, List of Pokémon (1-20), and Bulbasaur among others stand out to me. If you'd like, we also have precedent on federally-licensed TV stations, too. Again, keep per established precedent and comments. Raymie Humbert (t • c) 20:19, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Bulbasaur is not my AFD and I have no idea why you are talking about federally-licensed TV stations. So far as precedent is concerned, sports has been able to flout the WP:GNG up to now but that seems to be changing.  This article seems to contravene the policies which I have cited and your local views on sports notability are weaker than that. Colonel Warden (talk) 22:38, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - To quote Wp:Notability (sports), "Nations participating at an individual Summer or Winter, Olympic or Paralympic Games are considered notable, e.g. United States at the 2008 Summer Olympics or Great Britain at the 2002 Winter Paralympics", thus making it notable. (And, if this was considered non-notable, then thousands of similar articles would have to go as well.) DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) &#124; (talk to me) &#124; (What I've done)  22:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * We're not talking about the USA or GB here. You need more than supposedly intrinsic notability - you need some content too and there's nothing significant here - no commentary, no analysis - just a handful of routine results. Colonel Warden (talk) 22:38, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope you aren't actually suggesting that we should uphold WP:systemic bias by only keeping similar content for countries like the USA or GB, because content for the Gabon Olympic team isn't readily available for the typical en.wiki editor. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 05:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I know we're not talking about the US or GB here - I was quoting that page. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) &#124; (talk to me) &#124; (What I've done)  12:43, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Those are examples, Colonel Warden. It obviously meets the guidelines. Raymie Humbert (t • c) 18:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment/Query: Should many of the items listed under the category "Nations at the 2000 Summer Olympics" therefore also be part of this AfD discussion, and given the same fate as Gabon? If so, what criteria would determine the dividing line? Should we also review the similar categories for other Olympic years? — Michael J  23:44, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There do indeed seem to be perfunctory articles of a similar sort such as Chad at the 2000 Summer Olympics and Tonga at the 2000 Summer Olympics. In all these cases there is no significant content because these nations had few participants and none of them achieved anything significant.  Per the WP:GNG, we require some significant sourcing, not just sprawling statistics spread thinly across every country in the world.  Where are the sources which discuss the performance of these countries in a general way?  Colonel Warden (talk) 21:38, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. Each nation that sent an athlete to the 2000 Summer Olympics gets an article like this.  It's the way we've chosen to arrange a large body of related data.  In cases like this, notability or significance is a side issue; individual notability for each team that participated need not be shown. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 19:40, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The large body of data you're talking about here are sporting results. These are the sprawling statistics which are forbidden by policy because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an exhaustive breakdown of sporting statistics like Wisden or other sporting bibles.  Our style is a summary one and so we should stick to medal-winners and the like - the results which actually attract notice and comment. Colonel Warden (talk) 21:43, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep per precedent, per WP:Notability (sports) (a notable country, Gabon, in the Olympic Games), because it meets WP:GNG with the references, and per ending systemic bias. First Light (talk) 20:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - if this goes then an awful lot of other "x country at x olympics" articles also go... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimzah32 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.