Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gabriel Kunda, Jr.


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The result was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:34, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Gabriel Kunda, Jr.

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Contested PROD by the author with no rationale given. Article is about a footballer who fails WP:GNG as he hasn't received significant media coverage nor does he pass WP:NFOOTY as he hasn't played in a fully professional league. &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 18:35, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete : nothing significant found after googling. fails WP:BIO --Robustdsouza (talk) 18:45, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: The article also exists as Gabriel Kunda Jr., which had been created in November 2012. ... disco spinster   talk  00:31, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for merging those AfDs Discospinster the Gabriel Kunda Jr. article was located at Wikipedia:Gabriel Kunda Jr. when I nominate Gabriel Kunda, Jr. hence how I missed it, I've notified the other author, Regards. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 07:47, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete cannot find any evidence of existence. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete The two Kunda articles were identical. I removed the non-refs from one before I heard of this AfD.  Refs either are dead or don't mention Kunda.  Only info about him comes from blogs.  If he played for Atlético Madrid B, then he would be notable under WP:NFOOTY, but there is no evidence he did.  Bgwhite (talk) 01:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'd considered tagging this as a hoax, which it probably is, but guessed the several namechecks on various blogs might have given the reviewing admin grounds for doubt. But even assuming he does exist... None of the "references" in the article mention him. BDfutbol confirms that no-one called Gabriel Kunda or anything similar played for Atlético B in the 2009/10 Segunda B season, when he was supposed to have played 24 games. And even if he had, the Spanish third tier isn't fully-pro within the meaning of WP:NFOOTY. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:13, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 17:37, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. Please do not delete this article this is not a hoax thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwalyagk (talk • contribs) 08:40, 8 May 2013
 * Comment this article is genuine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwalyagk (talk • contribs) 08:40, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. This article about this player is totally genuine. He was recently on trail with Birmingham City F.C which he did not manage to earn a contract. Player has received full coverage, a few blogs have video attachments to this player proving this is a true article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwalyagk (talk • contribs)
 * Comment This article Gabriel Kunda, Jr. was under the name Gabriel Kunda Jr but was moved but does not deserve to be deleted. . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwalyagk (talk • contribs)
 * Keep - article does not breach any Wikipedia rules and is not a fake video evidence on football websites confirm the player is real. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamiecarr100 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if my suggesting the article was a hoax made you think I disbelieved the existence of the player. My beliefs are neither here nor there. The hoax aspect referred to the claims made about the player appearing for Atlético B, when he did not, and the addition of reference links which either don't exist or don't mention the player. To satisfy Wikipedia's "notability criteria" for football players, i.e. whether a player deserves a WP article or not, he has to have played in a fully professional league, as listed here, or to have played senior international football, or to have received "significant coverage" in reliable sources independent of the subject. "Reliable sources" include newspapers, broadcast media and reputable websites with a reputation for fact-checking; they don't generally include blogs, forum posts, fansites, or other self-published sources. If you think the page should be kept, you need to demonstrate such coverage. Adding a "reference" for his 24 games for Atlético B in 2008/09 which consists of a match report for two different teams entirely dating from 2011 and lifted wholesale from Pere Martínez Sastre doesn't strike me as likely to demonstrate any such thing. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:52, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment please do not delete this article I will continue to keep working on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamiecarr100 (talk • contribs) 12:36, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - blatant failure of notability standards, no evidence more time to improve the article will result in notability (or verifiability) criteria being met. C 679 20:48, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 *  Keep Comment - Article was moved numerous times so I put a vandalism tag but was moved, but I would think this article should not be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamiecarr100 (talk • contribs)
 *  Keep Comment won't question that it could be improved but passes the notable criteria... not every footballer who has a Wikipedia page is notable but this certainly passes some. I would say it needs to be re-written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamiecarr100 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete - the article is about a footballer who hasn't played in a fully pro league or represented his country at senior level, which means he fails WP:NFOOTY. Also fails WP:GNG due to lack of coverage in reliable sources. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:39, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. He has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:07, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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