Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gagauz people in Moldova


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Gagauz people. Owen&times; &#9742;  22:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Gagauz people in Moldova

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Unnecessary pages. Most Gagauz people live in Moldova, except for five Gagauz-majority villages in Ukraine. Gagauz people in Moldova is basically a duplicate of Gagauz people with basically the same scope while Gagauz people in Ukraine is an article dealing with five villages with a very narrow scope and which can be perfectly integrated into its parent article. Therefore I propose that both articles be deleted and their information merged into Gagauz people. Super  Ψ   Dro  16:41, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups, Moldova,  and Ukraine.  Super   Ψ   Dro  16:41, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, IgnatiusofLondon (talk) 01:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Gagauz people in Moldova, keep Gagauz people in Ukraine. As you have stated, Gagauz people in Moldova is just the same with with Gagauz people as almost all Gagauz people live in Moldova. It is like creating an article like Moldovans in Moldova, ridiculous. Though, I think Gagauz people in Ukraine can be kept even though the amount of content is low. Youprayteas (talk to me? | contribs) 19:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * There are no ethnographic or linguistic features separating the Gagauz in Moldova from the Gagauz in Ukraine. All Gagauz people in Ukraine can ever deal with are census statistics and local politics of the Gagauz which actually do not exist as they do not have any party of their own, or the five villages' history which can be dealt with in their own articles, or the history of how the Gagauz got divided which can easily be explained in the parent article, or notable personalities which are currently a total of four in Ukrainian Wikipedia. I simply don't see a need for a separate article, everything it covers or can cover can be integrated into another article. Super   Ψ   Dro  21:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, it’s a small article, but why delete it? There is no need.
 * Youprayteas (t • c) 17:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Is there a need for the article? Is there any information we cannot cover anywhere else? I've just argued for the opposite view. Super   Ψ   Dro  18:27, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom. AryKun (talk) 13:02, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note, I think a redirect/merger would be good too. The resulting redirects would be inoffensive. Super   Ψ   Dro  19:14, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep both. While the majority of Gagauz in the present live in Moldova, they historically lived further east, in Bessarabia. A Gagauz people article rightly summarizes a totality of secondary-source-covered aspects of the topic, including their history before becoming an ethnic group in Moldova, whereas Gagauz people in Moldova and Gagauz people in Ukraine are discrete subtopics of the main topic that can bear more detail about Gagauz specifically in Moldova (irrespective of wherever else they are or have been) or specifically in Ukraine. I think the comparison to like creating an article like Moldovans in Moldova, ridiculous doesn't quite hold. As an alternative comparison, New York City is the location of the densest population of Jews in the United States, but that doesn't mean Jews in New York City should be merged with American Jews. P-Makoto (she/her) (talk) 03:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * By percentage, not by population. I don't know exactly, but I can confidently say that below 50% of Jews live in New York, while most likely, overwhelmingly, Gagauzians live in Moldova (I would guess for about 80%). Youprayteas talk/contribs 17:10, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep The comments made during this discussion raise general red flags for me as to the proposal to delete the ethnic group article as being redundant to the national group. If this passes GNG, merge targets can be discussed at the article talk page since no clear merge target has been proposed in this discussion. Ben Azura (talk) 02:02, 4 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Please re-read the nomination and review the vote. The suggestion was not to delete the ethnic group. Instead, the nominator suggested merging the national divisions into the ethnic group. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 09:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Final relist. Still divided between Delete, Keep and Merge to Gagauz people. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Strong support for merging Gagauz people in Moldova to Gagauz people: it is difficult distinguish between the two topics (i.e. content of the two articles would be largely redundant). There is also the article Gagauzia which is more focused on the political issues within Moldova, and which also reduces the usefulness of a separate article for Moldovan Gagauz. Weak support for merging Gagauz people in Ukraine to Gagauz people. It seems possible that the Gagauz in Ukraine would have their own political issues. But for now, all the content in the article can easily be included as a section in Gagauz people. If the section expands, it can be WP:split off again. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 09:54, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge one into the other, because right now, we have a fork. Bearian (talk) 20:32, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge to Gagauz people. Highly overlapping. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:37, 6 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge with Gagauz people: Merge both to Gagauz people since both are overlapping and it's redundant and unnecessary to keep both the specific articles separate. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 12:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge - given the content of the respective pages, this feels the best ATD given that I don't think these need exist on their own, given the reasoning above. microbiology Marcus [petri dish·growths] 18:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.