Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gajendra Thakur


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The result was   Keep. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 20:41, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Gajendra Thakur

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This non-notable person has no significant achievement in his self proclaimed Author career. Moreover, the references given on the page are mostly blogs (wordpress) and few websites, which are his own websites. - MithilaDesham (talk) 17:31, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete: Being nominator, I vote to delete am in favor of Delete, for the reasons:
 * biography of non-notable person
 * non-reliable references used like blog and untrustworthy websites (some websites are managed/edited by him only)

- MithilaDesham (talk) 17:31, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. MithilaDesham (talk) 17:53, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete He is a published author, editor, and is respected in the field of the Maithili language. See this from Pandey, Anshuman  (2009) "Towards an Encoding for the Maithili Script in ISO/IEC 10646": Gajendra Thakur of New Delhi graciously met with me and corresponded at length about Maithili, offered valuable specimens of Maithili manuscripts, printed books, and other records, and provided feedback regarding requirements for the encoding of Maithili in the UCS.  I could not find a copy of: Ranjit Singh, "Maithili in computing and Mithilakshar", Mithila Darshan, Year 59 issue 11, November–December 2010] "Gajendra Thakur and his contribution to Maithili, Mithilakshar and computing in Maithili".  Unfortunately Gajendra Thakur has not won any literary awards, and the statement changed the literary scene "in every branch" of Maithili if substantiated (which it is not) would help me decide that he does meet the bare minimum of notability. As it is, weak delete. Note to MithilaDesham: This is not a place to vote but a place for reasoned argumentation. --Bejnar (talk) 19:13, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bejnar. I got it MithilaDesham (talk) 19:42, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

There was a long discussion already (archived) ensued by some racist and casteist people, and matter is already settled.--Umeshberma (talk) 15:19, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:59, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

The references are pure and simple, no wordpress blogs are there, the 11000 ancient jpg plam leaf manuscripts in pdf forms are there as pad files. Anyone can download those files and can imagine how much effort needs to transliterate all these, at least 10 years or so. Mithila Darshan magazine is available through subscription and someone who says that he is not able to find a copy of this journal surely does not have any knowledge about the Maithili language. This id MithilaDesham himself gives reference "Pandey, Anshuman (2009) "Towards an Encoding for the Maithili Script in ISO/IEC 10646": Gajendra Thakur of New Delhi graciously met with me and corresponded at length about Maithili, offered valuable specimens of Maithili manuscripts, printed books, and other records, and provided feedback regarding requirements for the encoding of Maithili in the UCS." and confused this with Mithila Darshan. Gajendra Thakur has edited 105 issues of Videha and most of these are available on google books. This internation gets published in Devanagari, Braille and Tirhuta and is only such type of international ejournal, it devastated the monopoly of high caste people on Maithili language, and broke all status-quoist citadels, now the hate Gajendra Thakur is getting from these racist/ casteist people is very small compared to the love that he gets from progressive advanced people, and from people belonging to all strata of Maithili speaking people across the globe. Gone are the days when hollow false words gained ground, all his works are available online, mere scanning of which would take years, The references for a language like maithili is not able to be easily found but all sorts of references/ cross references are there, ranging from English international ejournal. Be it partilal history of Maithili, be it partial representation of lower strata of society, be it capture of Government resources by a small section of society, all these have been unsettled by Videha> Now only quality rules in Maithili, those books known for quality, have been appreciated by Gajendra Thakur via his two volume collection of papers, His two novels are a lankmark and became classics of Maithili language. His poems, Children literature, epics all these are marvellous. His novel, poems, stories got translated in many languages including English. All these works have been mentioned on Maithili Lekhak sangh (Organization of Maithili writers) website, referenced. As all these works are also available online, where is question of Self proclaimed etc.verboses.--Umeshberma (talk) 16:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

MithilaDesham, Vikas11004315, Akshat38 all these ids are involved in vandalism in respect of articles related to Mithila and Maithili. Every three four months they misuse the notices of wikipedia. Its actually win for quality maithili literature movement of videha, which has opposed the capture os Sahitya Akademi awards/ assignments by a handful of persons. In the history of Maithili literature, and in the research of old age manuscripts of Maithili written in Tirhuta and Kaithi scripts, the of Gajendra Thakur will be remembered for ages. As his decipherment of manuscripts has brought forth many inconvenient facts faor the purist, it is natural that they will oppose this greatest personality that the Maithili literature has ever produced.Even when this issue settles these people will again come after 3-4 months for mud-slinging campaign, as they are unsuccessfully trying to spread hate among the classes. --Kapileshwar.raut 03:59, 10 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kapileshwar.raut (talk • contribs)

MithilaDesham etc. has put these type of libelous things on facebook blogs and now on my talkpage too. Gajendra Thakur and videha started Maithili Literature movement and it led to heartburn among the reactionary people. Those people are not able to see the vast corpus of literature by Gajendra Thakur and Videha and the 300+ authors attached with videha nor are able to contribute anything, yes they are here for libelous works and hate-spread work.--Priyanka.rachna.jha (talk) 06:01, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge to Maithili language and possibly other articles. Having read all of the above (spacing, people, please!) and examined the sources, he's not notable enough for his own article, but his work is a valuable source for articles about the subjects he writes on. As for the rest of the above, can you guys please stop tossing around personal attacks and be civil? - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 19:09, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, come to think of it, I'm going to add the spacing myself so no one goes tl;dr. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 19:11, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I also faond some spam messages by MithilaDesham. Already these discussions held, which is archived, and a consensus emerged that if Gajendra Thakur is not a notable person that who other is notable in Maithili language? 2.Notability, the corpus of his writing, both quantatively, and qualitatively, is single largest and best in the history of Maithili Literature. 3.Thanks God, that it all has been scanned/ digitized and have been put on internet. 4.A person who attacks status quo, through his writings, faces ire of the reactionaries.--Manojberma77 (talk) 04:36, 11 May 2012 (UTC) It is syastem error because this AFD template was earlier placed and after consensus it was removed (you may see it in archive), the same comments I have given again. It is in respect of Articles of deletion / Gajendra Thakur. As if it happens again and again it is like a system breakdown at wikipedia, is not it? I work day and night for localization of Maithili at wikipedia, more than thousand translations from English to Maithili, edit articles, but if I am away for a week, I see all deleted!! flagged!! Regarding notability there is consensus that Gajendra Thakur is the greatest personality that Maithili Literature has ever produced, I cannot say about future. James Princep deciphered 20-30 pillar inscriptions of Ashoka, but Gajendra Thakur deciphered 11000 jpg images of ancient scripts, add to this his lexicographic work, his novels-poems-research articles, and above all his maithili literature movement.--Umeshberma (talk) 04:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

The same person have started donin this with diiferent id's at AFD. The libelous languages used by KSHAT38 has been repeated, it shows that the castiems regroups in 3-4 months and have deletion agenda at wekipedia and are involved in feeling wikipiedia MAITHILI articles is reactionary use. Regarding notability of Gajendra Thakur I agree with view of umeshbrema/manojberma77/prinyak.rachna.jha/kapilehwar.raut and I have no doubt that the works/research work/ creative writing of Gajendra Thakur and the VIDEHA Maithili litrature movement initiated by him puts him notable living person catagoery.--Ashishanchinhar (talk) 05:58, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I believe that the previous discussion, to which Umeshberma is referring, was not an Afd, but was on the Biographies of living persons Noticeboard in May 2011. linked here. Akshat38 brought a charge there that the Gajendra Thakur article violates the biographies of living persons policy and listed several reasons. --Bejnar (talk) 05:42, 11 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Seems a noteworthy author to me. I can't see the blogs the nominator is referring too, so that is no valid argument to me. Night of the Big Wind  talk  07:10, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. I think notability is marginal at best, but there are seemingly reliable references to the subject. I'm also concerned that half of the nominating statement doesn't seem to apply; I can find no blogs in the refs as they stand. If they've been removed, great - fixing problems is what AFD is for. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 14:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: Blog references have been fixed. - Appreciate. MithilaDesham (talk) 20:15, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comments:
 * 1) Umeshberma, Kapileshwar.raut, Priyanka.rachna.jha, Manojberma77, Ashishanchinhar are the only few persons (I doubt, they are few or one) who have contributed to the article Gajendra Thakur so far. (I am talking about major contributions). These are the few persons who have spoken in favour of the article here also. I really wonder, does his notability limit to few persons ??
 * 2) If we look at the contributions of user:Priyanka.rachna.jha (See her contributions), we will find that most of her contributions are to the article Gajendra Thakur. Any connection ?
 * 3) All these users (Umeshberma, Kapileshwar.raut, Priyanka.rachna.jha, Manojberma77, Ashishanchinhar ) are habitual of making personal attacks (on the opponent). Any connection ?
 * 4) See the talk page of User talk:Priyanka.rachna.jha (talk page link) and User talk:Umeshberma (talk page link). Both accuse me of being racist. Any connection ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MithilaDesham (talk • contribs) 21:09, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Please comment on the content, not the contributors. None of what you posted has anything whatsoever to do with whether Gajendra Thakur is (or is not) notable - and that is the question before this AFD. Behavior problems, if any exist, are dealt with elsewhere. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 12:19, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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