Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gal Rasche


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The result was delete. If someone can find good foreign language sources they can ask for undeletion at the usual places (User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus and WP:REFUND) Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:58, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Gal Rasche

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References consist of two dead links. Can't find much else online on the subject. Simply not notable. RelaxedTim (talk) 15:51, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete a non-notable composer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:49, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * So far that is two cases of WP:JUSTNOTNOTABLE. KDS4444 (talk) 18:30, 16 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment. See earlier AfD at Articles for deletion/Gal Rasché. However, the earlier article, from a time when sourcing standards were weaker, had no actual references, only links to subject-associated web sites and concert programs. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:01, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note. There are two deleted histories here, under Gal Rasche and Gal Rasché. The latter was created in February 2006 and deleted in November 2006 by Can't sleep, clown will eat me, following Articles for deletion/Gal Rasché. It was recreated on 22 February 2010 as Gal Rasche (which had been a deleted redirect), and speedy deleted the next day by . In August this year, asked NJA to undelete it following an OTRS request.
 * Someone (NJA?) should merge those histories, and rename this AFD 2. I've edited the article, so I probably shouldn't do it myself. SarahSV (talk) 23:45, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * There is this source from September 2013, not mentioned in the article, by de:Edwin Baumgartner. But is it a letter to the editor (Leserbrief)? It calls her Galina Kroutikova, which this article used to say was an earlier name of hers. SarahSV (talk) 00:36, 18 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise, but I currently can't find RS other than the slim pickings in the article and the link I posted above. According to this blog post, written c. 2007, Rasche was running a guesthouse in Vienna at that time with her husband, and teaching piano. Because she wanted to work as a conductor, she staged her own concerts; if I've understood it correctly, she hired the venue and the orchestra.The article's only reference to Rasche's notability is that NEWSru mentioned her in passing in 2011, in an article about the Saint Petersburg Conservatory, in a list of the conservatory's "famous" graduates. However, I see that an IP address geolocating to Austria added Rasche's name, unsourced, to the list of "outstanding" students in the Russian WP article on the conservatory in 2009. Her name was still there in 2011 when the NEWsru article appeared, so the NEWsru author may have copied it. According to during the first AfD, the article appeared in 2006 "on multiple major Wikipedias on the same day in precisely the same form", written by, aka Slidersoul and, on the Russian WP, aka Galrasche (see redirect). That the article existed on several projects was interpreted in August this year by KDS4444 as signalling notability; hence the request to undelete. NDJ restored the text to User:KDS4444/Gal Rasche, and KDS moved it over. Perhaps the articles on other projects have improved since 2006, but checking everything would be a lot of work. What I'd suggest is that this be deleted, and that someone interested in keeping it conduct a search for RS in any language, rewrite it in draft space if enough sources exist, then go to DRV for consensus to recreate it. SarahSV (talk) 03:32, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: per Articles for deletion/Gal Rasché Toddst1 (talk) 04:54, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * delete per slimvirgin's work and recommendation. Jytdog (talk) 05:01, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. The one Wiener Zeitung review that we have is not enough, especially in light of SarahSV's discoveries. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:03, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Not enough sources to establish her notability. Capitalistroadster (talk) 06:46, 20 October 2017 (UTC)


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