Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Galactic Ghoul

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The result of the debate was keep (and cleanup). &middot; Katefan0(scribble) 18:12, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Galactic Ghoul
VFD notice added by 141.218.24.237 on August 12, 2005. Completion of AfD process occurred at later date. — Phil Welch 01:16, 6 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Comment: Why has this page been marked for deletion?
 * Unsigned comment by 212.32.110.71. DNS lookup indicates possible sockpuppet of below. — Phil Welch 01:15, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Am I allowed to vote if I am not logged in? If so I vote to Keep.  The article may not be particularly well-written, but it describes an important cultural creation of the early 21st century.  Mars exploration is hugely ambitious and historic, and I think we should allow its explorers the recognition of recording the cultural icons of its explorers.  David Corking   13:56, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Only comment by 82.153.195.65. DNS lookup indicates possible sockpuppet of above. — Phil Welch 01:15, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree - Dean
 * Only comment by 140.180.138.75. Princeton University IP. — Phil Welch 01:15, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * PLEASE DO NOT DELETE. The existance of the term Great Galatic Ghoul was coined by John Casani of the Jet Propulsion Labatory in Pasadena, CA upon attempting to communicate to a reporter that developing successful space probes and missions was difficult. The reporter demanded a reason for failed space flights that he (in his simple mind) could comprehend.  In frustriation John Casani told him perhaps there was a Great Galactic Ghoul at Mars that simple devoured spacecraft. The term Great Galactic Ghoul subsequently appeared in a prominent newspaper article.  John Casani has been routinely reminded of this comment by his friends since that date.  John Casani retired from JPL but was recalled to take charge of the PROMETHEUS mission. J. F. Skipper (JPL)
 * Only comment by 66.214.248.250. IP is registered to a California ISP. JPL is located in Pasadena, California. — Phil Welch 01:15, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * This nom was never added to a main VfD page and was malformed as well. Fixing both today.  Keep.  JYolkowski // talk 14:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Well-known running joke during the Pioneer program. Pilatus 14:51, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The reference is here at the bottom of the page. Pilatus 15:32, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, have added it. Sdedeo 23:53, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * BJAODN: Move over Flying Spaghetti Monster. Karmafist 15:11, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep weak because only 730 googles for '"galactic ghoul" mars', but keep because seems main stream and something a person might want to look up. RJFJR 15:18, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep found numerous references at NASA & Space.com. Even though it is a bit of an inside joke, it is definately notable enough for a Wiki article.  However, it needs to be cleaned up pronto to avoid a potential copyvio problem. -PlainSight 17:57, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * That's a non-GFDL-compliant Wikipedia mirror. If you've found references that are not Wikipedia mirrors, please add them in a "References" section to the article. Uncle G 18:17:40, 2005-09-05 (UTC)
 * Keep - Verifiable and notable within its field. FCYTravis 20:01, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep but this article needs sources, stat. Sdedeo 20:44, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * ...which I have sort of provided. I couldn't find evidence that John Casani invented the term, however. Sdedeo 23:50, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I see we already have Mars Curse, and there's lots of duplicated info. I suggest a merge/redirect to that article. Sdedeo 23:52, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep if it can be expanded enough to justify it existing outside Mars curse, otherwise merge per Sdedeo. 23skidoo 00:56, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.