Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Galleria Center


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 00:01, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Galleria Center

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Strip mall with only a couple stores. Sources comprise dead links, a primary source, and a store locator. Seems to entirely lack coverage in reliable sources. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 01:00, 13 March 2009 (UTC) 
 * Delete as nn and incomplete mall; if it ever become a million sq. ft. facility it can be recreated. Several links in the refs. are broken. JJL (talk) 01:54, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The mall, combined with a similar mall across the street is notable for being the largest lifestyle center complex in the state of Illinois. Sources will be updated. The mall is not a "strip mall" by any means. The mall is still under construction and will eclipse the Algonquin Commons (currently the largest lifestyle center in IL) in size once completed. It's already average size for a lifestyle center, and is only 1/3 of the way done. No need to delete and then bring back when people are seeking information during its ongoing construction and when stores are already operational. Abog (talk) 21:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. If it's not even built, it's hard to imagine what can be written about it, nor am I seeing enough--nor can I imagine there being--independent sources that discuss it in enough depth to provide more than a listing of stores. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 08:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, you're wrong. It is built. It's not finished yet, but many of the buildings are constructed and all the stores currently listed are open for business now...some have been open since as long ago as 2006. And there's plenty to be written about...its planning and construction, the delays, the opening of businesses, the size of the project, etc. I will try to find more sources or fix the current ones from the local papers and business news websites. Abog (talk) 15:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: I've added several more sources, so just about everything in the article is referenced now. The local newspaper has written dozens of news articles about the center. Additional papers in the area have written about the center too, but their archives don't go back as far. Abog (talk) 17:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  —94.196.217.102 (talk) 18:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions.  —94.196.217.102 (talk) 18:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep The size and scope of this nascent super-regional mall, combined with the sources added establish notability. The article would benefit from the addition of the sourced material to the article. Alansohn (talk) 19:40, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment the sources seem to reflect trivial local coverage of things like zoning board decisions regarding this project, all from one local paper. JJL (talk) 20:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * comment - So what your implying is that newspapers are not RS's? Because we know there is no Local Clause in WP:N. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  13:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - a RS says "1 million square feet of retail space" ... that makes it a Super-regional and we usually keep thoes. It may have a small amout of WP:Crystal in it, but we have Template:Future for this situation. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  13:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


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