Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Garlic Brown


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. T. Canens (talk) 03:30, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Garlic Brown

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The subject does not seem to have significant coverage in reliable sources, see the general notability guidelines for what is required for a subject to have a stand-alone article. Most of the links and sources in the article as it stands now are essentially directory listings or "anyone can edit" type sites, like ReverbNation. ErikHaugen (talk) 03:31, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - you mean this isn't an article about cooking? Other than one Myspace link, all the prominent Gsearch links are food related. Or just redirect to garlic ;-) -- Ohconfucius ¡digame! 04:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect Brasse Vannie Kaap, as article fails notability criteria for musicians, no notability outside the band. Armbrust  Talk  Contribs  08:51, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't object to this redirect. ErikHaugen (talk) 21:49, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:37, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep or Redirect - There seem to be just enough sources to establish notability under WP:GNG but a redirect to Brasse Vannie Kaap could also be a good solution as they don't appear to qualify under WP:MUSICBIO (although I'm sure with a bit more digging through the food articles something could be found). PanydThe muffin is not subtle 20:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Would you please be so good as to cite one of those sources here that you feel helps satisfy the GNG? I'm not sure which ones you are talking about. thanks, ErikHaugen (talk) 17:46, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Do not delete. Since the initial nomination for deletion I added two substantial references and thinking the matter resolved removed the article from nomination. Or so I thought. Since then someone else has added a third reference concerning the Hip Hop Connected musical, a very notable event. Brasse Vannie Kaap was a very big group in the history of South African music, even performing for President Nelson Mandela, and Garlic Brown's career, while not as well known, is an ongoing and burgeoning story. As user:panyd says, a superficial glance at the search results for ("garlic brown") will not yeild much, but try (knoffel bruin). He's featured on Die Antwoord's album, which has been downloaded and streamed over several million times. He's connected to Jack Parow, one of our countries biggest stars. South Africa's musical history has not been well documented on the internet but carelessly deleting attempts to establish one is not helping. Remember, wikipedia was not built in a day. Es-won (talk) 14:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Es-won, would you please clarify which of the sources in the article you feel satisfy wp:GNG? Or even sources not in the article yet? Thanks, ErikHaugen (talk) 17:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete With respect to the references, the first doesn't mention the artist at all. The second is a database listing, which doesn't go towards notability. The third item I don't have the complete text for, but even if it did provide significant coverage of Brown (as required by WP:GNG), would not by itself establish notability, more than one article is required. I also attempted some souring searches myself, nothing via Gbooks/Gnews using either name, and while the musician clearly exists, none of what references I can find via Gweb (and perhaps I'm missing something) go towards satisfying either WP:GNG or WP:BAND.  --  j &#9883; e decker  talk  16:50, 2 October 2010 (UTC)  Note:  I have no problem with a redirect, though.  --  j &#9883; e decker  talk  16:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.