Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Garou Tribes (Werewolf: The Apocalypse)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 08:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Garou Tribes (Werewolf: The Apocalypse)

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The article provides way too much detail on these fictional tribes than is appropriate for Wikipedia. It really belongs in a role-playing wiki. D O N D E groovily  Talk to me  05:19, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - While overly detailed, the subject matter is covered by several reliable sources. I'd say it needs to be trimmed, not deleted. Mathewignash (talk) 02:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Footnote 1 looks like a press release of a corporate partnership. Footnote 2 appears to be a one page reference in a big book. Footnote 3 looks like the same. (Mind you, I don't have these books, so can't be sure). The non-footnoted references are the game maker's own website and a fan webpage. Neither are considered reliable. I see two reliable sources, each with one trivial reference. D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  03:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I"m pretty sure the game makers web page IS considered reliable, just not third party. Mathewignash (talk) 10:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Good point. However, the third-party part is key here. Third party sources would establish a real world significance while primary sources do not. D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  20:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Related AfD at Articles for deletion/Glass Walkers, proposed by me. D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  04:50, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep Perfectly acceptable spinout article to keep Werewolf: The Apocalypse from growing too large. Edward321 (talk) 02:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Should probably be trimmed, but while there's not the real-life significance of, say Vampire: the Masquerade's vampire clans, which have influenced the art and literature and even real lives of others, there is probably enough to warrant a MODEST article focusing on the real-life significance of the tribes, and a more brief synopsis. As it stands it needs a full re-write to be in line with the guidelines on writing about fiction. 65.29.47.55 (talk) 06:54, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - I understand the concept of a spinoff but most of this is pointless WP:FANCRUFT. It could possibly be trimmed but the users who care about such articles usually aren't the type to trim. Since sources are not particularly significant, independent or reliable, I think it's best left to the White Wolf Wiki.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 00:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.