Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Garry South


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Mediran  ( t  •  c ) 06:13, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Garry South

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Tons of puffery and little substance, trying to inherit notability by his employers. I smell a professional COI. Independent notability not established, no matter how slick and padded the sources are. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 00:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

James Carville, David Plouffe, Bob Shrum; all Democratic strategist who gained notability via their employers. That's the nature of the political consulting business but, like it or not, these political consultants are 'notable' and increasingly important figures in American Democracy. If anything, there should be more of a spotlight on them since they affect campaigns so much. Alex Thompson 00:55 12 December 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 01:02, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * James Carville is notable due to writing and hundreds of appearances. There are plenty of sources that are only about Carville.  This is not that same situation, by a country mile.  Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 01:09, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * So Carville is only notable for the writing and appearances after he helped elect Bill Clinton president? That's silly, he was notable because he managed the Clinton campaign. South is notable for managing two campaigns for the head of state in America's most populous state (and the world's 8th largest economy). South is not Carville, obviously, but they both gained notability through managing successful high-level campaigns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexscottthompson (talk • contribs) 01:15, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Obvious keep and a WP:TROUT for the nominator for wasting our time. Just perusing the existing references, he's the subject of lengthy articles by The New York Times and Los Angeles Times. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:24, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Also this Newsweek article: "Southern Strategy: Meet Garry South, the man behind California's GOP-primary upset--and a player in the 2004 campaign." (highbeam sub. needed). Clarityfiend (talk) 08:12, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Although it might be a puff piece, this is no reason to delete the article. Perhaps someone should go through and remove the fluff instead. AdventurousSquirrel (talk) 05:01, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. If the article has WP:NPOV issues, those should be fixed, but the subject of the article is very much a notable figure. Circumspect (talk) 06:30, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
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