Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary King (radio presenter)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. As noted by people here, for someone to get an article on Wikipedia we need evidence that other people have written about them in a significant capacity. That does not seem to be the case here, so delete it is. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:23, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Gary King (radio presenter)

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Hardly any information. Lots of unsourced material was deleted in January 2019 and not replaced since then. I would have thought a radio personality such as Gary King would have more sources, but looking online, there's not much around.
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 17:13, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 17:13, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Keep I've reinstated much of the previously deleted information after finding audio clips of Gary working at the stations mentioned in the article. The article now contains seven references. Rillington (talk) 01:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Most of these references are audio which doesn't meet WP:RS criteria.  - Funky Snack  ( Talk ) 06:58, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Being audio rather than printed isn't in itself a problem, as long as the recordings are available somewhere such as in an archive or on the Internet. Bearcat has identified the actual problem with these sources below. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:48, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand the minutiae described above. I found a source which proves that Gary worked at the stations listed in the article and to me it seems as though this minutiae is being used as justification to shred the article. Rillington (talk) 06:58, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. A radio personality's notability is not secured by the existence of audio recordings of him doing his job — it is secured by the existence of third party sources writing or talking about him in the third person. But the only source here which represents third party coverage at all is not about him — it's just a glancing namecheck of his existence in an article whose primary subject is something else, which is not enough to make him notable all by itself. Bearcat (talk) 17:41, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * They are not minutiae that are being described above, but Wikipedia's inclusion guideline's such as the general notability guideline. Yes, you have proved that King worked where he worked, but that doesn't mean that we should have an article on him. I can also prove where I have worked, but that also doesn't mean that there should be an article about me. What is needed is other people writing independently about him. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:16, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * And that's what I did. However this won't be possible if the article is deleted. Rillington (talk) 07:29, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean other people writing about him on Wikipedia, but writing about him in independent reliable sources on which we can base a Wikipedia article. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:08, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Other people writing journalism about him in media. The baseline that a person has to meet to qualify for an article on Wikipedia is not just "it is possible to verify that he exists" — it is "he has been the subject of media coverage, written by other people, in newspapers or books or magazines". Bearcat (talk) 19:07, 30 April 2019 (UTC)


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