Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary L. Rhodes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Consensus leans towards the article narrowly meeting the notability guidlines. Davewild (talk) 19:27, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Gary L. Rhodes

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BLP of a person with very doubtful notability. President of community colleges is not enough notability for Wiki D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  05:55, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:ACADEMIC as president of an accredited college. Has been president of more than one.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  06:15, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Borderline keep He does seem to meet #6 of WP:ACADEMIC, per Cullen. However, the guideline requires that he "has held a major highest-level elected or appointed academic post at a major academic institution" (my emphasis), which is a little vague. In my personal opinion, J. Sargeant Reynolds Community College looks just about large enough from its article to count as a "major" institution, but others may disagree. Yunshui (talk) 08:20, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 09:40, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Very weak keep. I live around this college and even around here it's of dubious notability. It's here, everyone knows about it, but it's not really a big or notable institution as far as listing every university president goes. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:02, 13 October 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79


 * Delete. A Community College does not qualify as a major academic institution. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:49, 14 October 2011 (UTC).
 * Weak delete. I think a community college presidency, while of some note, does not rise to the level of automatic notability of WP:PROF. So instead, we need to search for enough nontrivial coverage of him in reliable published sources to pass WP:GNG (and also to provide enough material to write an article on him). But I was not able to find much in Google news — a couple stories mentioning that he's president of Reynolds Community College but none with any nontrivial detail about him. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:44, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


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 * Delete No sources I can see except passing mention that he's president of the college, which on its own isn't notable. EEng (talk) 00:58, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete — a community college is not a major academic institution. If any academic institution qualified as "major" for this purpose, I would have written articles long ago about the presidents of my alma mater, a small liberal arts school.  People can be notable for many reasons other than being presidents of major academic institutions, but I don't see Rhodes qualifying for any of those reasons.  Some of this information might be useful in the college article: I don't know how much, but not much, and the current content (the wording, not simply the facts) is a bit much to merge, and this is not suitable as a standalone article.  Nyttend (talk) 01:50, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Being president of an accredited public college with an enrollment of roughly 20,000 (40,000 if you count non-credit/public service/non-degree vocational courses) may not be glamorous, but it's certainly significant, not a minor institution. There's significant coverage in relevant media; here, for example, is a newspaper profile . Wikipedia does a lousy job of covering people like this, whose activities are significant and well-documented. Not all of the notable people out there fit into the Kardashian mold. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 15:58, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect and/or merge to J. Sargeant Reynolds Community College. He's not really notable per PROF, as leaders of community colleges are just not normally notable.  (I work at a junior college.) Bearian (talk) 21:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


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 * Keep. I'm not sure that every community college president should automatically pass WP:PROF but there's enough coverage here (such as the profile cited by Hullaballoo) to lead me to the conclusion that this one is notable enough. --Arxiloxos (talk) 05:48, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Meets all the requirements for a stub article, has a few sources. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 19:40, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep meets the basic requirements at WP:PROF. A community college counts. That the credits are interchangeable with those of a college indicate their fundamental equivalence, they are organized similarly, and classes taught in a similar manner. In terms of community significance, The various associations of colleges and college teachers include them. They are accredited in the same fashion. most of the larger ones like this can be  much more significant than the average 4 year institution.    DGG ( talk ) 17:21, 31 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep but just barely. Seems to meet the basic criteria of PROF, meeting criterion #6, but only just. I'd like to see some more references with significant coverage, but the ones that have bee presented by other commentors to this debate make me think that deletion isn't the right outcome here, improvement is. Steven Zhang  The clock is ticking....  00:05, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
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