Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary Miliefsky


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was snowball delete and salt the earth. Max S em(Han shot first!) 06:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Gary Miliefsky

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NN security "researcher", created by a PR account for subject's company, edited extensively in contravention of WP:COI, makes unjustifiable claims ("world renowned" for invention of "clientless NAC", something Lockdown and Mirage would debate strongly --- founder of... Homeland Security? What?); only references I can find are PR-placed op-eds in trade press (anyone with a PR agent can place an op-ed). Should I tell you how I really feel? Delete. --- tqbf 22:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Note --- disputed prod. --- tqbf  22:50, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is a promotional piece, and has been created by what appears to be an SPA - WP:COI, anyone?  -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 23:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable puff piece. Hesperian 04:51, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. SPA promotional author posting legal threats against other editors? Salt the earth. --FOo (talk) 04:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Although I agree wholeheartedly with Fubar's sentiments above, the page makes enough claims to notability that it can't be tagged as CSD. Of course, a complete lack of non-press release hits on Google news suggests that it will be impossible to satisfy WP:V (and thus WP:BIO), so this page is going away sooner or later.... --jonny-mt(t)(c) Tell me what you think! 05:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt. nn. &mdash;Moondyne 05:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom, fubar, hesperian. -- Orange Mike 05:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. I researched a few pages of Google hits and couldn't find anything that wasn't self-promotion.  There are suggestions of articles in Fortune, etc., but the web is very short on actual citations for them and who knows if they're part of a PR machine?  I agree there seems to be some assertion of notability and possibly an hour or two of research might have found it, but what tips the balance for me is the arrogant threat of legal action (see the article's talk page history).  Rather than run the risk that anyone might edit the page, we have to delete it and salt the ground.  Too bad. Accounting4Taste: talk 05:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. If there are independent sources to document the notabilty of this individual, I am unable to find them. WP:BLP means we need to be even stricter with sources. ZZ Claims~ Evidence 05:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete NN & WP is not for self-promotion, even through a third party. -- Rodhullandemu  (please reply here - contribs) 05:51, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment- I note one of the references cites "Automated Rogue Detection". If only.-- Rodhullandemu  (please reply here - contribs) 06:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. Who?  What's an "informal advisor"?  When I read that, my mind says "nattering nabob", "random kibbitzer" and "peanut gallery".  For the record, I'm a philanthropist too.  See my PDF.  Tomertalk  06:05, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * comment - an "informal advisor" could be code for Kitchen Cabinet; but not this guy, I'm thinking. -- Orange Mike 06:08, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * comment - I note that you can Google "is a founding member of the Department of Homeland Security" and find many people who appear to have obtained this distinction by virtue of serving with the US Coast Guard at the time of the DHS reorg; [www.freerepublic.com/~6869tonkingulfyachtc/ here's one], referred to as a "personalized keepsake". This comment is not intended to make any assertion as to the validity of the subject's claim. --- tqbf  06:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * comment - Note the earliest page in the Internet Archive that evinces a list of staff for the Walden Woods Project: . I may be incorrect, and another, more accurate page could have preceded it, evading my notice. --- tqbf  06:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - A lot of undefended "tops" and plain-url references tell me this is just someone fanning his tail thru a PR setup. -Jéské ( Blah v^_^v ) 06:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


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