Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary Miller (Abdul-Ahad Omar)


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The result was Weak Keep. Cbrown1023 talk 00:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Gary Miller (Abdul-Ahad Omar)

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Fails WP:BIO. There are no reliable secondary sources to prove notability. Secondly, Google returned less than 200 hits for his arabic name. As for his english name, most of the links are for the congressmen Gary Miller, who is a totally different person. Sefringle 03:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC) Strong Keep  Gary Miller is also an outspoken critics of Christianity. His argument is in page well over 6 months without a challenge to his notability or refutation of his argument. without his bio will cause confusion among wikipedia reader as there are other people with same name. 88.241.21.129 19:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC) Strong Keep The article is not complete at this stage. Gary Miller has written many books and appeared as a pundit on television and radio. He is like a mirror immage to Ali Sina.
 * Delete Article fails to establish notability. --Ozgod 03:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:NOTE.-- Dakota 04:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, no non-trivial second party sources. If that should change by end of this AfD change to Keep Alf Photoman  13:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Only because I think that a better process to deal with this article would be to tag it with notability, and maybe a PROJECT-NAME, as suggested in WP:BIO under "If the subject does not appear to be noteworthy". I suggest this because he may be entirely notable among the Arabic-speaking online moslem community, and judging by the number of people who have done major content-oriented edits on that article, I suspect he probably is. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 00:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Gary Miller seems to be quite notable Muslim theologian. Goggle (Gary+Miller+Islam) produces thousands of website containing his bio, books, article, lectures and videos. 202.154.141.243 17:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * comment that doesn't prove him notable.--Sefringle 03:31, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep – his bio. Because of the contribution of his attributed work on wikipedia. Criticism of Christianity  and  Criticism of Muhammad 124.125.67.40 02:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Strong Keep As described above by AliSina, this article is not complete and it needs more contribution, it shouldn't be deleted if "references aren't there", the references should be added. Also, Gary Miller's criticism of Christianity is mentioned in other wiki articles. User:Waqas.usman (Talk) 11:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems notable, but the article needs more references. Mav99 15:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletions.   --   &rArr; bsnowball  10:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Above Annons have not provided a single source proving notability. Their only arguement is WP:ILIKEIT--Sefringle 02:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment – Sefringle here is a small sample of website published his book/article or lectures/audio or biography
 * thetruereligion.org.
 * islamicinvitationcentre.com
 * www7.bev.net
 * themodernreligion.com
 * answering-christianity.com
 * islamway.com/
 * mydeviant.com
 * islamicinterlink.com
 * islamicity.com
 * islamtomorrow.com
 * islambasics.com
 * cyberistan.org
 * jannah.org
 * islamherald.com
 * islamicweb.com
 * islamvision.org
 * al-sunnah.com
 * missionislam.com
 * nzmuslim.net
 * themuslimwoman.com 124.125.67.40 04:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Not one of these websites is a reliable source. They are all Proselytising websites, which are never reliable sources. I could find just as many websites for virtually anybody. That does not make that person notable. Daniel Lou has just as many links, but he is not notable.--Sefringle 08:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Article is nothing more than a platform upon which to post links.Proabivouac 19:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I have read his works and learned from them. I think he is much better than many others who are doing the same job. If he didn't have a page on wikipedia, I wouldn't have been able to find him. So, I would say Keep. --Aminz 23:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


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