Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary Schwartz (actor) (3rd nomination)


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 21:48, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Gary Schwartz (actor)
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Has been deleted twice, and nothing has changed since the last deletion, still just a working actor and voice actor who doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:13, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:13, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment Found some coverage:, , , , (Minor: [, ) [[User:Spy-cicle|  Spy-cicle💥  ]] Talk? 14:34, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep If we're talking notability, then I must protest by saying that Gary Schwartz is a very notable entertainer, who's career in many fields is to be admired. Just because it's something simular to a failed attempt in the past, does not mean it can't be improved upon. I know I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again, I didn't take the previous drafts and convert them into the current page.
 * His significant roles include two characters Team Fortress 2, part of the main cast in the acclaimed series Zoobilee Zoo and recurring character Guss Tuno multiple stories in Star Wars: The Old Republic. The fan base of the characters he portrayed in TF2 has been strong for longer than a decade and many admire his talents to preform seamlessly. As mentioned before, his talents are not limited to just acting. A gifted acting coach, writer, author, comedian and founder such as he shouldn't go unnoticed.
 * Many of the references on the current page, I can assure you, are from official websites of which he is associated with, wether he is a member or being interviewed.
 * Also with many pages simular to this, such as John Patrick Lowrie and Rick May, on this website, how is it that this man, who's experience is just as prolific, if not more so, as theirs, then i see no reason to delete this page.
 * I, as well as many others, would recommend that this page should not be deleted. However, should this page be improved upon, why not have a maintenance template instead of letting it go to waste? Traptor12 (talk) 14:44, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, possibly salt for persistently wasting our time. Spy-cicle's "coverage" consists of passing mentions and PR releases. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:00, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete we lack the quality sourcing needed to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as the subject notable enough to warrant his own page. Firstly, I think that Schwartz meets the WP:ENTERTAINER specifically the first point (Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions). He has played two significant roles (Demoman and Heavy) in the critically acclaimed game Team Fortress 2 (2007) (a game which is constsitenly in the top 10 games played on steam 13 years after release ). He portrayed another sigificant role this being Bravo Fox in Zoobilee Zoo. Furthermore, he has protrayed a plehtora of other characters as seen in his Filmography. Moreover, he recieved WP:SIGCOV: a few paragraphs,  a full article about a theatre he founded,  a paragraph,  a full article,  two parapgraphs,  another full article. For these reasons that is why I believe he notable enough to warrant his own page. Regards   Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 22:33, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep strike duplicate !vote. Onel 5969  TT me 13:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC) as Schwartz has made an impact on pop-culture of what he has been involved in and that information is hardly a "waste of time". How many times do I have to say that? Traptor12 (talk) 23:04, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't lvote more than once. Repeating yourself isn't effective. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:42, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:14, 9 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 03:50, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Not every actor can have a Wikipedia page just because they exist. According to WP:NACTOR, the subject must have...

1. significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.

2. a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.

3. made a unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.

Which not one of have been satisfied. On top of it, most of the references in this article are useless and not reliable, and I can't find one reliable source myself. Coreykai (talk) 14:25, 17 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: 3rd time is the charm and hopefully the last time for this subject (or at least for a while)
 * Delete. Reviewed the above sources and cannot see a case for significant coverage. They're either local theater coverage or passing mentions. Altogether insufficient sourcing to support a dedicated article without delving into primary source original research. (not watching, please )  czar  01:34, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Czar and others. Deleted two times already, third time's the charm. IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 21:21, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, for the reasons of those who want this article kept. Davidgoodheart (talk) 07:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:43, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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