Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gateshead Thunder


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:23, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Gateshead Thunder

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Doubtful if they play in a fully professional league, as they play at the third tier of British rugby The Banner talk 17:18, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep. They play in a semi-professional league, Championship 1. All other clubs in that league have entries on Wikipedia.  Championship 1 is recognised as the lowest tier of the professional game, and the league inlcudes some famous names from RL, e.g. Hunslet Hawks who in the past were one of the sport's top teams (see All four cups). Grinner (talk) 16:55, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep - Notability is not temporary. Even if the third tier wasn't considered notable enough for club articles (which it is), Gateshead competed in the fully professional Super League, albeit briefly. J Mo 101 (talk) 18:17, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The article does not make clear if the present Gateshead Thunder is a real successor of the Super League Gateshead Thunder or just a namesake claiming a bit of history. The Banner talk 15:32, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Define "real successor". Many sporting clubs have been through a number of incarnations, different legal structures etc (e.g. see Bradford Bulls). In any case Gateshead are notable by virtue of playing in a nationwide, semi-professional league in one of the UK's major spectator sports. Grinner (talk) 07:29, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * But only when it is still the same club. The present text states that it is a totally new club, created after a merger. Not a legal change or so. Just a new club with an old name. The Banner talk 08:30, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What is the definition of "club"? The legal entity may change several times, but the name, logo and supporters are really all the carries on: there are numberous examples of this.  In any case, is it your contention that the 1999 (Super League) club deserves an entry, but the current club does not?  All other Championship 1 clubs have entries, whether or not they have been in Super League.  We have numerous semi-professional clubs on the wikipedia, eg. Shepshed Dynamo F.C., Dalry Thistle F.C. (random examples from football, could have selected from other sports.) Grinner (talk) 09:41, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Just to clarify, the article itself definitely needs improving. But a quick look at the official website and news sources show that it is still considered to be the same club regardless of various takeovers/liquidations. The name, the crest and the stadium are all essentially the same, it's only the ownership/holding company that has changed over the years. J Mo 101 (talk) 21:29, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep - what J Mo 101 said.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 02:49, 10 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. No reason to delete this, its a small semi pro club, with small crowds, but has history and it is a worthwhile article. Szzuk (talk) 15:55, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
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