Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gavin Hetherington (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:38, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Gavin Hetherington
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The subject of this article does not, in my opinion, meet the criteria for notability per WP:GNG or WP:BIO. The main claims of notability, I suppose, are that he has written a book (the article for which I have also nominated for deletion -- see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abyssal Sanctuary: Remnants of the Damned), and that one of his stories was included in an anthology (which itself does not seem to have attracted much attention).

Google search on his name does not bring up any significant discussion in reliable sources, just entries in various social networking sites and book sellers.

In the previous two iterations of this article (since deleted), he was described as an actor and dancer, and now he is an author. ... disco spinster   talk  23:58, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not notable.  May need to be salted this time. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:43, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete and Salt - nothing notable - and links to Facebook and Twitter statusses. The only thing that looked vaguely notable is, I think, an "Anyone can submit" style nomination - of which Goodreads only shows the top 20.  He isn't on the top 20 lists in his own citations. And the Shorty nomination appears to be by one of his friends, with no other votes for him. Neonchameleon (talk) 19:55, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:28, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:29, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete TOO SOON to know if the novel will succeed. Salt would be too drastic.  Peterkingiron (talk) 21:58, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Self published on kindle? Amazon rank over #150,000 two months after publication?  Too soon is ... debatable.  But the salt isn't about that, it's about the first deletion of his page and that there's been an article written about him in a different field. Neonchameleon (talk) 11:55, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That is actually my fault, about the whole 2nd page thing. When creating this article, I just went over the previous article that was deleted about the actor, so I'm sorry about that, I didn't realise until I was advised a couple of days ago that I should have done "Gavin Hetherington (author)" and not just go over a previously-deleted article. Also, the book has been out three months, not two, and isn't exclusive to the Kindle anymore, which you have to pay for, whereas it's free everywhere else on the net, so obviously ranking on Amazon is going to be affected. But I agree with Deleting the article. The guy isn't notable enough yet and if he does become notable enough, then we'll see. I have no idea what Salt means. Codywarren08 (talk) 21:34, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Salt here on WP means 'protect from creation', which equals blocking the title so only admins can create it. Comes, I think, from what the Romans did to Carthage. Deleted the city, and salted the fields to prevent crops growing for a long time. Salting here is easier to undo. Peridon (talk) 13:10, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete, probably even speedy delete. This is a pretty big case of spam here, even if it might be unintentional. There is no claim to fame here, as everything is an unreliable source. Even the award nominations are suspect, as every single one of them are the type where you can nominate yourself. You might have to create a different account, but anyone can nominate anyone for these awards. I'm going to see if I can get this speedied as a promotional article. Sorry Cody, but this guy isn't notable and he's unlikely to become so in the near future. Salting the article means that we'd prevent any further recreation of the article unless you can prove with reliable sources that he's notable. I'll leave a note on your talk page about what is a RS and what isn't. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:00, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Could possibly be a different Hetherington, although Gateshead and Newcastle are over the river neighbours. Too soon. When he gets a good-selling and widely reviewed book (reliable independent sources WP:RS), that's the time to think of an article. Or if it is the same person, a rather more notable part in something. Peridon (talk) 13:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per everyone else. Deb (talk) 14:48, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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