Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gazza (musician)


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The result was keep. Michig (talk) 09:09, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Gazza (musician)
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Too much of this article is written in the first person to not immediately violate WP:NOTPROMOTION - would rather put here for a clear consensus over a speedy delete LikeMeercats (talk) 04:48, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 04:50, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. North America1000 04:50, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

The album made him receive a car endorsement by KIA MOTORS, so I was the face of KIA MOTORS for two years." LikeMeercats (talk) 04:57, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Specifically - parts of the article written like this: "KIA Motors
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 * Keep. Deletion is not cleanup. Sure, the article is written in a promotional and unencyclopedic tone. But we can fix that! or add a cleanup template like Template:Advert. Do you have a valid reason to suggest deletion? Absent one, we shouldn't delete it. BenKuykendall (talk) 05:24, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. He is clearly notable in Namibia and South Africa - as well as multiple newspaper articles about his music and advocacy in various areas (eg with the UN information centre about using less water in the severe drought), he even has an entry in the Historical Dictionary of Namibia. He's also performed internationally (eg Australia). The article may need improving, but certainly not deleting. RebeccaGreen (talk) 06:50, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment User:RebeccaGreen User:BenKuykendall I think your keeps are misguided when he doesn't meet even the most basic aspects of WP:MUSICBIO. The music is self published and he has not been charted. LikeMeercats (talk) 22:01, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Outside of the article, written by the artist, I'm not able to find anything that supports notability. But agree that one could get the impression of notability solely from the promotional article. LikeMeercats (talk) 22:02, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Could you post some of the sources you have found here, for others to consider? North America1000 22:04, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * . Sure, his music has not been charted. But I don't think Namibia has national charts per Record charts; this shouldn't mean the country's music should be ignored. He has won number of Namibian Annual Music Awards. This might not be "major" enough to qualify for WP:BAND:8, but it's a slight indication of notability. More importantly, under WP:BAND:1, he has received media coverage as referenced in the article. Is there anything wrong with namibian.com or allafrica.com as sources? BenKuykendall (talk) 22:45, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment North America, Here are some sources I easily find for Gazza: 'Namibia: 'Misunderstood' Gazza Explains Himself', 'Gazza challenges ‘all Namibia’s people’ to take a #ShorterShower' , 'Namibia: Gazza to Set Commonwealth Stage Alight' , 'Gazza sweeps at 2017 NAMAs' , 'SUPERSTARS GAZZA AND UHURU CONFIRMED FOR MEGA-HIT LIVE PERFORMANCES AT NAMA2015' , 'Gazza slaves for the Industry' , 'GMP Supremo Gazza to perform in Australia' , 'Gazza expands business' , 'Namibia Tourism Board teams up with Gazza' , 'Gazza and Monique are Namibias' best Male and female artists for 2017' , 'Kalux, Gazza inspire Khorixas learners' , ' Gazza ready to launch 12th album' , 'Gazza Talks GMP, A New Album and the Birthday Tour' , 'Gazza goes Kwaito again' 'Gazza faces attempted murder charge' , 'Gazza 'Puts The Record Straight' ' , 'Young African Commonwealth at Festival 2018' . Some sources might not be considered reliable, but surely some are (The Namibia Economist, for example). Those articles range from 2007-2018, and there are mentions of awards he has won, which could be followed up. Gazza is also mentioned in some books, often as one of Namibia's most popular artists - Culture and Customs of Namibia , Kwaito's Promise: Music and the Aesthetics of Freedom in South Africa , Namibia (Other Places Travel Guide) , The Changing Faces of Aawambo Musical Arts . And the Historical Dictionary of Namibia  RebeccaGreen (talk) 03:07, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep – Meets WP:BASIC. Some of the sources atop are usable vis-à-vis basic notability, and I found a couple more in my own searches. The article would benefit from a cleanup to read less like a cv, and more like a standard Wikipedia biographical article. North America1000 07:59, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


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