Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gemeinschaft der Jagdflieger


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  19:37, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Gemeinschaft der Jagdflieger

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After examining sources, it seems most references to the organisation do not constitute "significant" coverage. I believe that it is not notable because of a lack of substantial coverage in reliable sources. Catrìona (talk) 04:26, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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Really? Society of Fighter Pilots? it's s stub, and they typically don't have lots of coverage--yet--so I'd say keep. auntieruth (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I respect your opinion that it should be kept, but as per Wikipedia policy it must have significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable, secondary sources in order to meet the WP:CORP notability standards. Have you been able to locate such sources? Catrìona (talk) 15:33, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

*Redirect name to Luftwaffe article, with a brief mention therein. Otherwise, with due respect, do not see it being noteworthy for a separate article; "stub". Kierzek (talk) 15:49, 18 June 2018 (UTC) Since they have changed their name and association, I am changing my opinion to delete. Just not noteworthy; trivial in the end. Kierzek (talk) 13:49, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename article to Gemeinschaft der flieger deutscher Streitkräfte as per in the lede, the existing title is an old one for the organisation which may explain the lack of sources Lyndaship (talk) 17:25, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * In fact, I looked under that name too. Besides the organisation's own website (which is not independent), almost all references to the organisation are in the introduction [edit : acknowledgements] to books where the author is thanking them for helping with research, ie not significant coverage. If you are able to find multiple, independent, reliable, secondary sources, that would help support your argument. Catrìona (talk) 20:48, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Sadly I can't. I came across one passing mention in the Guardian under German Fighter Pilots association and another claim elsewhere that they were the largest Luftwaffe veterans organisation and a fair few that they were at funerals, helped with books etc. I agree none of these pass the criteria of WP:NORG so am striking my keep, not going to vote Delete though as I think they are more worthy of an article than so many of the footballers/gymnasts/tiddleywink players on here Lyndaship (talk) 11:45, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete: does not meet WP:NORG; significant RS coverage not found. I'm only seeing passing mentions under either name. Not significant enough to to be worth a redirect to Luftwaffe especially considering that the present-day org does not advertise itself in this way: "Community of Airmen of the German Armed Forces". K.e.coffman (talk) 03:26, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:25, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
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 * Weak Delete - there is some coverage here, and a few books do mentions this organization's works. I do not think this rises up to NAUTHOR (sort of relevant, though not a person) or NORG.Icewhiz (talk) 11:13, 28 June 2018 (UTC)


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