Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gene S. Walker, Sr.


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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 10:28, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Gene S. Walker, Sr.

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Local rancher lacking non-trivial support. Only references are obits and related to his being voted local "business person of the year" in Laredo. Nothing in article that stands out. The Legacy section are mostly vanity items. red dogsix (talk) 10:41, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. Prominent rancher with holdings in five Texas counties and in Chihuahua, Mexico. Other business ventures including oil, gas, real estate, and banking. He was a school board member. His death made the front page lead article in the Laredo Morning Times on January 21, 2015. Other sources include two livestock publications cited. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:25, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment- Which of these items support notability? I am not trying to be a pain (or funny) by saying this, but given these are obits, it appears he is know for his death and nothing else.   red dogsix (talk) 14:59, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The support notability because they are significant coverage by reliable sources that are independent of the subject, the basic criteria for WP:N. Obits by reliable sources are no disqualified as reliable sources.--Oakshade (talk) 18:22, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Reply. There are articles from 2000 (reprinted 2014), 2003, and 2014 too. As I noted above, his death was the page one top news story in the Laredo Morning Times.Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:15, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:22, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:22, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - There is plenty of in-depth independent coverage. Besides that of the Laredo Morning Times mentioned above, even the Livestock Weekly coverage is acceptable as a reliable source as it has editorial control over its content. --Oakshade (talk) 02:21, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Nearly all of the the in-depth coverage is from obituaries. OhNo itsJamie [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|
 * Even if that were true - it's not - there is nothing in WP:GNG or anywhere in WP:NOTABILITY that "bans" significant coverage from independent reliable sources that happens to be obituaries as evidence of notability. --Oakshade (talk) 03:57, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

(1) Elizabeth M. Pease, "Modern Times bring changes to ranching", Laredo Morning Times, August 24, 2014, Walker Supplement, p. 7D, reprint of a November 2000 article. (2) "Chamber names Gene S. Walker, Sr., as Business Person of the Year". Laredo Chamber of Commerce. June 22, 2014. Retrieved February 3, 2015. (3) "Gene S. Walker, Sr.: Business Person of the Year": Countless people impacted by the family's contributions", Laredo Morning Times, August 24, 2014, Walker supplement, p. 2D (4) Gabriela A. Trevino, "Walker family built cattle ranching empire", Laredo Morning Times, August 24, 2014, Walker Supplement, p. 6D (5) Colleen Schreiber (May 29, 2003). "Lifelong Rancher Attributes Success to Unity of Family". Livestock Weekly. Retrieved February 3, 2015. (6) "Gene Walker". zoominfo.com. Retrieved February 6, 2015. (7) Gene S. Walker, Sr., Glimpses of Life on a South Texas Ranch, Aguilares, Texas, December 2013, p. 7. His death brought a page one-headline article (not an obit per se): Philip Balli, "Gene Simeon Walker, Sr.: Local rancher dies: 'He was known for the love he had for his family'," Laredo Morning Times, January 21, 2015, pp. 1, 12A There are obits cited of him, his brother, sister, and brother-in-law. Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:13, 9 February 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Reply These are non-obituary articles cited:
 * Weak Keep. The article needs the tender loving attention of a gas-powered chainsaw, but the subject appears to possess sufficient local notability to have the tallest building in town named after him. Pax 21:37, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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