Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  10:15, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania

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I can't find evidence that such a party existed. All references I've found so far point to the Bund in Lithuania remaining part of the General Jewish Labour Bund. For example;
 * "At the beginning of the February Revolution, large parts of the Russian Empire, such as Poland (Warsaw, Lodz), the Northwest Region (Grodno, Bialystok, Vilnius), Lithuania (Kovno), were occupied by the German army, and their political fate had Separated long ago by the fate of Russia." צום אנהייב פון דער פעברואר־רעוואלוציע זיינען גרויסע טיילן פון דער רוסישער אימפעריע, ווי פוילן (ווארשע, לאדזש), די צפוןמערב געגנט (גראדנע, ביאליסטאק, ווילנע), ליטע (קאוונע) געווען אקופירט דורך די דייטשע ארמייען, און זייער פאליטישער גורל האט זיך צעשיידט אויף לאנג פונם גורל פון רוסלאנד. - so prior to the 1917 February Revolution, Vilna had been in the Northwest Region (di tsfunmerb gegnt), along with present-day Belarus
 * "[o]f all the Bund's committees, the so-called gegnt-komitet in Lite was the last to be reorganised,379 which was partially due to Vilna's unclarified status" - i.e., even at December 1918, the Lithuania (Lite) had a Regional Committee ('gegnt-komitet').
 * "The right wing of the Bund, based in the Vilna Regional Committee, used the Unzer shtime, edited by Max Weinreich, to advocate Bundist participation in the kehile." (Dec 1918)
 * There was a General Kombund Committee of Lithuania... but of the Communist Bund (Russia) or a separate party? - "В 1920 г . переехал в Литву, был кооптирован в члены главного комитета Комбунда Литвы — левой оппозиционной части Бунда . организаторов ликвидации Комбунда в июне 1921 г ."
 * "In Moscow in November 1920, I was delegated to the Plenum of the Russian Central Committee of the "Bund" in Moscow as the messenger [representative?] of the General Committee of the "Bund" in Lithuania" (אין מאָסקווע אין נאָוועמבער 1920 ווער איך דעלעגירט צום פלענום פון רוסי לענדישן צענטראַל ־ קאָמיטעט פון „ בונד " אין מאָסקווע ווי דער שליח פון הויפּט - קאָמיטעט פון „ בונד " אין ליטע) - I'm not 100% sure whether the person talks about the Kombund or the Bund (S.D.) here... but appears that there wasn't a separate Bund party in Lithuania as of Nov 1920...
 * "The Vilno Bund organization, which considered itself more Russian than Polish, had split in 1920, the vast majority of its members going over to the Communist Bund."
 * From the Polish Bund wiki article: "The Bund branch in Wilno (now Vilnius) had split along the same lines as the rest of the Russian Bund in 1920, into a left-wing majority group and a right-wing minorities group. The latter was associated with the Russian Social Democratic Bund. Both groups were reluctant to join the Polish Bund, even after it had become apparent that Wilno was an integrated part of the Polish state. The Wilno Social Democratic Bund distrusted the Polish Bund for its overtures to the Comintern, stating that the Polish Bund had ceased to be a Social Democratic organization. In 1923 both Wilno Bund groups merged into the Polish Bund. " - So the right-wing Vilna Bund presumably continued to be part of the Russian Bund (S.D.) until the merger, but what about the Vilna left-wing Bund? What role did it have after the Bund in Russia proper had merged with RKP(b) and the Kombundists in Kovno had merged with the Communist Party of Lithuania? Soman (talk) 00:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jack Frost (talk) 02:59, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: A quick search shows that this organization is documented in numerous books.  Maybe speedy keep. Toddst1 (talk) 03:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment, could you provide an example of such as reference? If you google 'General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania' you get a lot of false positives, since the name of the Russian Bund party was 'General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania, Poland and Russia' from 1901. --Soman (talk) 22:52, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per Soman's comment. Toddst1 (talk) 22:56, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * has a mention in passing of there being a small Bundist presence in 1930s Kovno. Presumably remants of the Social Democratic Bund minority there, but not clear if still part of the Russian SD Bund party or a separate party. I'd say we can still go ahead with the AfD, but it is worth checking further on what happened with the SD Bund there. --Soman (talk) 18:12, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


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