Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genesis Health Clubs


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The result was delete. I have to discount both "keep"s because they do not do the one thing that could save this article: identify substantial coverage in reliable sources, or discuss the contested quality of the existing sources.  Sandstein  12:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Genesis Health Clubs

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Fails WP:NCORP because sources fail WP:CORPDEPTH, basically every single one is a routine announcement of store acquisitions, openings or closings. No in-depth independent sources. PROD contested by author. shoy (reactions) 18:34, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep a simple click on the "news" link above shows a significant number of news-worthy additions and coverage, well enough to pass WP:GNG.--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That was one of the avenues that I tried to find additional sources before my initial PROD. The problem is that all of those "articles" are either press releases or barely-recycled press releases from industry websites or local newspapers about store openings, closings, purchases, etc. which explicitly run afoul of WP:CORPDEPTH. It is the very definition of "trivial coverage". shoy (reactions) 20:29, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor 10:49, 31 October 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:53, 7 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep I was informed that pursuant to WP:COI and WP:PAID, I am required to disclose my affiliation with Genesis Health Clubs. I am a former Front Desk Associate at the Metcalf SuperSport and Lee's Summit East locations. I was also a Cafe Manager and Delivery Driver with Geomeals. I was employed January 2018 to July 2018. Prior to that, I was a member from January 2017 to July 2018, and was featured as a weight loss success story around January 2018. I was also a member with 24 Hour Fitness Independence, Missouri location in 2013, prior to the acquisition by Genesis. I currently live in Viña Del Mar, Chile and no longer have any affiliation with Genesis Health Clubs, other than remaining friends with a number of former colleagues. I have met Rodney Steven on three separate occasions, but don't know him to any degree of depth. I created this article entirely of my own volition. I was not paid, nor even asked by anybody to create this article. I created it as a labor of love, because I thought that this company should have an article, as 24 Hour Fitness and Gold's Gym do. I believe I have presented the subject matter objectively. My real name is Kenneth K. Santarelli, feel free to investigate me further if you'd like. I believe I have now done my due diligence for full disclosure, but if any additional information is wanted from me, please let me know. Whammy (talk) 04:35, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: an excessively promotional article on an unremarkable chain. Does not meet WP:NCORP; significant RS coverage not found. Sourcing is routine notices, passing mentions, and / or WP:SPIP. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:18, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


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