Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genesis Theatre


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:50, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Genesis Theatre

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I believe this article does not meet the notability criteria and is original work. Only two sources are linked. One is a site maintained by a former member of this theatre, the other site is maintained by the writer of the article. The first site was in the past hosted at http://www.tonyward.org.uk/genesistheatre/, which is the site of the Wikipedia writer. I have searched for other sources, but have not found them. The writing does not meet the quality standards of Wikipedia. To select a few quotes "For any further information contact Chris Dumigan", "Chris Dumigan still lives in the Greater Manchester area as do several other former members and there are regular reunions", "The original musicals Stag and Marilyn are the ones discussed most often by former members". These quotes further show that this is original work. Finally, the lack of sources also creates problems with WP:BLP. Dajasj (talk) 13:07, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Theatre-related deletion discussions. Dajasj (talk) 13:07, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 13:43, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

There are other sources - please see the news article from the Manchester Evening News. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New-article.jpg

The linked website includes biographies from 7 former members (Chris Dumigan, Chris Fogg, Guy Taylor, Ally Davis, Anita King, Alan Ratcliff) and numerous pictures. The objection that there are no sources is clearly false. A cursory glance at genesistheatre.co.uk will show many photographs of people and show programmes i.e. multiple sources.

The writing on the wikipedia article is is the first hand accounts of the aforementioned people.

The objection about original work is nonsensical - there are many wikipedia articles about original music and theatre productions very likely by people who have also met the original artists.

The objection to the quality standards is also not applicable "For any further information contact Chris Dumigan" is entirely appropriate given that the group ended in the early 1980's There has been interest on BBC radio and people are keen to know more and/or keep in contact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyGWard (talk • contribs) 14:06, 23 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Short-lived WP:MILL amateur theatre group that did not attract much, if any, press coverage. The material in the article is entirely WP:OR.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:03, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as there’s no evidence of coverage in RIS. Mccapra (talk) 09:22, 30 December 2021 (UTC)


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