Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genetic origins of the Kurds (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to History of the Kurdish people. Black Kite (t) (c) 22:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Genetic origins of the Kurds
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Procedural nomination on behalf of User:Spatulli. This article was changed to a redirect and nominated for deletion at WP:RFD. Rather than permit a backdoor deletion, the article has been restored and nominated for deletion here. I am currently neutral on the deletion of this article.

The reason for deletion at RfD was that the term wasn't mentioned in the destination article History of the Kurdish people, which obviously isn't applicable to AfD. –Grondemar 05:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 00:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to History of the Kurdish people, establishing a new section or sections as needed. Potential content fork here. —Carrite, Sept. 26, 2010.
 * redirect. This is a non-issue. Please do not create unnecessary red tape. There is no reason to delete the redirect, as it contains edit history, and does no harm. There is also no reason to recreate the article, because it is worthless trash. So why not just leave things the way they were (i.e. fixed). --dab (𒁳) 08:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Question Why do you suggest redirecting without merging?! This is quite senseless IMO - The Kurdish history article has absolutely nothig about genetic ancestry. I really cannot understand your opinion, and your past decision to redirect without merging anything. Spatulli (talk) 16:45, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge as per Carrite. Redirect would effectively be deletion by another means as the destination article does not contain this material. Jimmy Pitt   talk  15:58, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:12, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment There are, apparently, parallel articles on Turkic people Origin of the Turkic peoples and Genetic origins of the Turkish people , which makes this a tad difficult to really sort out. Also the proposed destination is at 72K, which means that any merge will likely elide much of this article as being duplicative.  so Merge and someone please propose the same for the parallel articles.  All share many of the same faults. Collect (talk) 11:18, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I redirected Origin of the Turkic peoples to Genetic origins of the Turkish people as the former was a duplicate of the latter Spatulli (talk) 11:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to History of the Kurdish people, establishing a new section. There is some well-sourced material that should not be lost. Bridgeplayer (talk) 16:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge I hadn't realized that this article had some valuable content. In my opinion, it should be merged selectively, with a removal of all wp:OR/wp:SYN stuff. But it can be made after the merge. Spatulli (talk) 16:45, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Merge, I found this material interesting but it should be contained within History of the Kurdish people. Abductive  (reasoning) 07:58, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * keep. Articles on the genetic origins of various populations are valuable in and of themselves, and they're not easily integrated into the generic history articles of those same peoples. This article has a number of good references to actual genetic science done on the Kurds and neighboring populations.  The companion article on Genetic origins of the Turkish people is much better done, and clearly wouldn't fit well into a general history of the Turks, but that calls for improvement of this article, not deletion. Argyriou (talk) 19:58, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.