Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genevieve Beauchemin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Kevin (talk) 21:52, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Genevieve Beauchemin

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Doesn't satisfy the criteria detailed at WP:CREATIVE (which includes journalists), hasn't been widely cited by peers or successors, no new concepts/techniques/major roles/critical attention or significant contributions. Does not satisfy WP:ENTERTAINER nor WP:BIO either as I see no awards/nominations/large fan base. ƒ(Δ)² 17:23, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. After some reflection, I believe that TV journalists who have appeared prominently on several different programs are notable under criterion 1 of WP:ENTERTAINER, since they are "television personalities" (and perhaps "opinion makers") who have "had significant roles in multiple notable ... television shows." Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 23:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Could you please specify the "several different programs" you're referring to? ƒ(Δ)² 09:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin, and other participants in the AfD Per discussion here, consensus is that WP:CREATIVE applies here, and not WP:ENTERTAINER as cited above. ƒ(Δ)² 16:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. Holding a brief discussion on a noticeboard, without having the courtesy to inform anyone who has expressed opinions contrary to yours, does not achieve "consensus' to ignore the text of a guideline. This is the sort of content dispute that ought to be worked out through reasoned discussion in context (that's what the AFD process is for, although it's often hard to tell); and trying to short-circuit it through low profile discussions elsewhere isn't a great display of good faith. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied on the other AfD. Please answer my question above. ƒ(Δ)² 17:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 00:11, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete: No WP:RS (a CTV biography is not an external, reliable source), fails WP:V, fails WP:N. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 03:44, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Can these be merged to a list of CTV anchors? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:37, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There is already a page on CTV personalities. If we merged all the info then it wouldn't be a list anymore. We could just name them there, in which case the individual articles would be deleted anyway. ƒ(Δ)² 07:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:14, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per lack of substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:48, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment, not a !vote. Sometimes things are right in front of your face, but you don't see them soon enough. Category:Television journalists is a subcategory of Category:Television personalities, as shown on this page, so that WP:ENTERTAINER expressly applies, so that the claimed failure to meet WP:CREATIVE doesn't control the outcome, and the article should be kept Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 03:31, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reliable sources to establish notability. I don't see how she meets CREATIVE or ENTERTAINER, but journalists aren't entertainers. When ENT talks about TV shows, it's not talking about local news. Lara  13:52, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not meet any of the criterion in WP:CREATIVE or WP:ENTERTAINER.  I would say (assuming "entertainer" criterion) the subject has not had the significant roles in multiple television shows that would demonstrate notability.  It's a humorous (though sad) fact that most television news personalities are indeed more "entertainer" than "journalist".  Narthring (talk  • contribs) 05:05, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.