Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genie (Dungeons & Dragons)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to List of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd edition monsters.  Sandstein  12:32, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Genie (Dungeons & Dragons)

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All the references are to first-party sources, i.e., to game guides and other material published by the game's various copyright holders. Third-party sourcing is lacking both in the article as it stands and in my attempts to find better ones. WP:GNG asks for significant coverage independent of the subject. Despite the longevity and number of submissions, does not appear to be notable under the general or specific guidelines. Not significantly better-sourced since the wp:Articles for deletion/Dungeons & Dragons creatures discussion. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:49, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Additional comment: also created Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Dungeons_%26_Dragons Thank you. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:09, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Merge to List of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd edition monsters. While some of the individual sub-species of genie appeared in previous editions (and are included on those editions respective monster indexes), the blanket term of "Genie" to categorize them all was not first used until 2nd edition AD&D, so that would be the most appropriate place to merge.  A stand alone article is out of the question, however, as there are no reliable, non-primary sources talking about them.  The only hits during searches are for things like fan-sites and product descriptions.  Its just another case of a well-known, pre-existing myth being used in D&D.  64.183.45.226 (talk) 19:17, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge to List of Dungeons & Dragons monsters (1974–76). BOZ (talk) 23:51, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, like I mentioned, while some of the creatures that would later be categorized as a type of genie (namely the djinn and efreeti) appeared in the first edition of D&D (and are already included in the appropriate list here on Wikipedia), the actual usage of the concept of the "Genie" being an overarching type of being with four subtypes didn't come about until 2nd Edition AD&D, which I why I suggested that as the more appropriate place for a merger. It would be difficult to merge into the List of Dungeons & Dragons monsters (1974–76), because, since they didn't exist as a concept at the time, we wouldn't be able to add in the standard information that is present for the monsters on that list, such as the book they first appeared in, page numbers, etc.  64.183.45.226 (talk) 00:06, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:57, 12 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect as above, or possibly merge to Genie in popular culture. Josh Milburn (talk) 00:03, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.