Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genny Rondinella


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is the sourcing (rehashes of team website, social media, press releases) is not suitable. If someone believes they can identify compliant sourcing and wants to work on it in draft space, happy to provide. However I doubt it's forthcoming in the timeline of a relist. Star  Mississippi  01:23, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Genny Rondinella

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Prod removed on the basis that subject plays in a certain football league. That doesn't confer notability. Coverage is limited to routine blurbs from local sports publications. I would urge the closer to apply policy rather than the certain deluge of keep votes from people unwilling to let go of WP:NFOOTY. agt x 17:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  agt x  17:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Italy. Shellwood (talk) 17:29, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete: Fails WP:SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 17:28, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Two seasons as a professional. He has national media coverage like Tuttocampo, not only local media. He also signed with ChievoVerona, a top league Italy club.Pincheira22 (talk) 23:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a routine player trade announcement that is literally sourced to the team's Facebook page, not significant coverage. There is no special exception for football players that permits this type of coverage to be considered significant. agt x  23:21, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That is your personal interpretation. It's a national media coverage.Pincheira22 (talk) 03:07, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 18:16, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. Please note that NFOOTBALL no longer exists. GiantSnowman 18:21, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep passes GNG.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:12, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Article comprehensively fails GNG. The only online Italian-language coverage I can find is similar to the sources already included in the article (routine coverage such as transfer announcements like this). Jogurney (talk) 03:46, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep meets GNG with coverage referenced above and in article. There's no prohibition against news stories about transfers. Also meets WP:SPORTCRIT - I'm not understanding User:Ficaia's claim there. Nfitz (talk) 07:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see, those sources only give trivial coverage 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 07:34, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The tuttocampo article is entirely about him; it's not a trivial mention of him. See WP:TRIVIALMENTION. Nfitz (talk) 16:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Opinions are divided, but the keep vote arguments are weak, with the only coverage of sufficient size shown to be clearly a primary source. There's obviously some trivial coverage but no real suggestion of any thing more. Extending to provide more time to add to the sources if possible, but editors are encouraged not to refer to the final point of WP:SPORTCRIT, which is clearly not trying to say a single source is sufficient for notability for a sports person, when the first sentence aligns exactly with GNG in the requirement of multiple significant independent sources as all articles require. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 21:55, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. Several of the keep !votes refer to the "article" in Tuttocampo. That's not an article. It's a team press release that got picked up by some sports websites, making it not a secondary source that can be considered for notability. Here is the same verbatim text archived from the team's then-official website. agt x  19:27, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep just did a quick check on Google and here's a bunch of secondary sources covering the subject specifically:      . These are the first ones I found, for the record, so it's quite possible there's more (which is pretty common for a Serie C player). --Angelo (talk) 23:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 4 is the same press release on another page. 6 is a site solely devoted to the team. And frankly the rest are basic, routine coverage. Just being a footballer does not confer notability. agt x  04:54, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * What you call "routine coverage" is just regular acceptable coverage to me. They are definitely not trivial and go into enough detail on the subject and his professional football career. I think that we have a deeply different opinion on that. --Angelo (talk) 07:09, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Please help me understand. How is this anything but routine match coverage? agt x  12:25, 13 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, seems to be routine coverage as stated above, so fails GNG. bop34 • talk • contribs 15:53, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


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