Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genocide of Kashmiri Shias


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Nomination withdrawn. The result was keep. (non-admin closure) — Amkgp 💬  14:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Genocide of Kashmiri Shias

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The article consists of information that have been added per WP:ORIGINAL, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Nearly all of the references like ( "Ta'rikh-e Hasan", vol. 1, "Taraaj-e Shia" is used for majority claims and "Shias of Kashmir: Socio-political dilemmas". IUVMPRESS returns Error 522) are unverifiable per WP:VERIFY and are not WP:RS. The factual accuracy of the contents is WP:DUBIOUS. — Amkgp 💬  16:02, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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"Withdrawn by nominator" - The creator has improved upon the sources and other issues can be sorted. I have also asked for help at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics. — Amkgp 💬  14:47, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with your claim. This article is supported by secondary scholarship that is cited in reference list. You can read them and modify them if you think it needs improvement.

Check English source:

Zaheen, "Shi'ism in Kashmir, 1477–1885", International Research Journal of Social Sciences, Vol. 4(4), 74–80, April (2015).

Persian source:

Pir Ghulam Hasan Khuihami, "Ta'rikh-e Hasan", vol. 1, "Taraaj-e Shia", pp. 479-494, Research & Publ. Dpt., Jammu & Kashmir Gov., Srinagar (1960).

Other supporting English sources:

1. Prof. Saiyid Athar Abbas Rizvi, "A Socio-Intellectual History of Isna Ashari Shi'is in India", Vol. 1, pp. 168–169, Mar'ifat Publishing House, Canberra (1986).

2. Christopher Snedden, "Understanding Kashmir and Kashmiris", Oxford University Press, p. 29, (2015).

3. Ildikó Bellér-Hann (2007). Situating the Uyghurs between China and Central Asia. Ashgate Publishing, Ltd. p. 20-21. ISBN 978-0-7546-7041-4.

4. Bellér-Hann, Ildikó (2008). Community Matters in Xinjiang, 1880-1949: Towards a Historical Anthropology of the Uyghur. BRILL. p. 137.

5. British Gazetteer of the Kashmir, pp. 31 - 32, (1872-73).

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 16:22, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * International Research Journal of Social Sciences is a WP:PREDATORY source. Source (3) and (4) is a mere mention and is not closely related to the subject/article. Source "Ta'rikh-e Hasan", vol. 1, "Taraaj-e Shia" is a WP:ORIGINAL which is used as a references for around 3/4th of the contents in the article. See similar past commentary here — Amkgp 💬  16:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I have removed Tarikh-e-Hasan from references, improved the text and added many more citations, please have a look.

6. J. N. Hollister, "The Shi'a of India", p. 148-149, Luzac and Co, London, (1953).

7. Jadunath Sarkar, "History of Aurangzib", vol. 5, pp. 323-325, Orient Longman Ltd, Delhi (1952).

8. Andreas Rieck, "The Shias of Pakistan", p. 3 & 16, Oxford University Press, (2016).

9. P. N. K. Bamzai, "Cultural and Political History of Kashmir", Vol. 2 & 3, M. D. Publications, New Delhi (1994).

10. Jadunath Sarkar, "Fall of the Mughal Empire", Vol. 1, p. 303, Orient Longman Ltd, Delhi (1964).

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 02:00, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep There is enough coverage for keeping the article. "The author of the Baharistan is more explicit about this tyranny and says that Mirza Haidar was over thrown because of his persecution of the Shias..." Though I don't think the article can stand with the present title, we can discuss title change on the talk page. Santosh L (talk) 07:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you Santosh L!. Initially the title was "Destruction of Kashmiri Shias" which is translation of the term "Taraaj-e-Shia" that is used for these events in history books. I think we should use it as it is more precise and it has a history. Some other editor changed it to the present title.
 * Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 11:14, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


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