Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gens (emulator) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to List of video game emulators. No substantial coverage establishing independent notability. (non-admin closure) Randykitty (talk) 18:11, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Gens (emulator)
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Article has been tagged for notability issues for years, and a recent back and forth over redirecting it suggested that maybe (a second) AfD is in order. I looked at the first one, and while it offers words in support it doesn't offer anything in the way of reliable sources. In the end, there's nothing more (that I can find) than what's already in the article--a paragraph or two in a book on retro gaming and a supposed award. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Gens is a product that was first developed in 1999, and it has various sources, including a Google books. I cannot find any though... -- Pretty les♀, Dark Mistress,   talk,  02:04, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you--I rest my case. Drmies (talk) 02:06, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I now realized I cannot find anything... not even the sources it links to. I change my vote to  Delete (seriously...) -- Pretty les♀, Dark Mistress,   talk,  02:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It happens frequently that something is tagged as non-notable but there's plenty of sources. It also happens that an AfD says there are sources but doesn't produce any, and then later the sources are provided. This is just not one of those instances, and that's why a redirect was a good solution, per Red Phoenix, a seasoned editor in this area whose redirect made sense to me. Drmies (talk) 02:22, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of video game emulators or to Sega Genesis. Although there is no inherent notability of the subject, I could see it possibly being a search term, especially since it has been a long-standing article.  If nothing else, a redirect preserves the page history and the search term instead of leading to "Wikipedia does not have a page for...".  I do know it has a parenthetical in the title, but it's certainly not unheard of as a search term.   Red Phoenix  build the future...remember the past... 02:11, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Article that may meet notability on software, just needs more improvements on some text and add some reliable sources. ///Euro Car  GT  02:45, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * "May" and "does" are two different things. Can you establish its notability to meet WP:GNG?  As this AFD is unlikely to be speedy closed in light of this keep, there should be about a week's worth of time where that opportunity will be available.   Red Phoenix  build the future...remember the past... 02:47, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Eh, yes. Eurocar, I see your usually sensible reverts all over the place, but this is about content and sources. The burden is on you to prove that the sourcing that establishes notability exists--otherwise, you don't have an argument. Drmies (talk) 02:54, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The problem is that there is no sources, at all, and hasn't been for a very long time. I actually tried to look, and despite being from 1999, there hasn't been for years... -- Pretty les♀, Dark Mistress,   talk,  11:24, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep There's a reference (the O'Reilly book). NE Ent 11:39, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * In which there is little more than a passing mention that it exists. This does not demonstrate "substantial coverage" as required by WP:GNG.   Red Phoenix  build the future...remember the past... 12:17, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of video game emulators. I can't find any sources, either. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:14, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:55, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:56, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.