Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geometric Software Solutions Private Limited


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. It was a bit close, but discussion (among the non-WP:ILIKEIT-commentators) focused on its importance on the stock market, and there remain serious doubts that this company's share price is indeed used to calculate stock market indices (see the second-to-last comment). One would assume to see some mainstream media coverage in that case. Sandstein 09:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Geometric Software Solutions Private Limited

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notability dubious. Reads like an advert, and no sources. Charlie 09:21, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - per WP:V, WP:CORP, and others, refernces must be independently sourced, so the company's homepage won't count. Charlie 09:31, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

This article shall not be deleted. The information available in this article is varifiable at
 * Modern Engineering
 * | NestLib Product
 * http://myiris.com/shares/company/snapShotShow.php?icode=GEOSOFSC
 * http://myiris.com/shares/company/writeDet.php?icode=geosofsc#rec
 * http://www.3ds.com/alliances/services-programs/consulting-services-partnership/partner-list/partner-description/partner/GEOMETRIC_SOFTWARE_SOLUTIONS_C/1
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The Company is listed in BSE and NSE
 * BSE = Bombay Stock Exchange
 * NSE,India = National Stock Exchange India

It is not polite to put delete-tag on articles unknown to you, without even taking the patiance to follow the link provided in the article for reference. - Jijithnr 10:31, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment Look, I mean no offense to you, but I did follow the only link that was provided when I nominated the article: to the company's homepage. I noted that it was the company's homepage, and that combined with the fact that you deleted my unreferenced tag led me to open an AFD here, so that consensus may be reached. You can feel free to join the debate, which will last up to five days, and the article will not necessarily be deleted. Charlie 10:03, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure, I am continuing my editing of this page, for this hour. May be you have found only one link sometime back. It is ok. It happens, that is the spirit of wikipedia, it is alive !!! (I recognize your role as a supervisor of recent changes. But you should allow some time for a recently made article to be tagged for anything:- unreferenced, delete or whatever. Allow the contributer his/her time, atleast, one hour of editing time, and then start your tagging. I don't know what is Wikipedia's policy on tagging a live article, while it is being edited by its contributer/ original auther. ) -Jijithnr 26 December 2006 (UTC)
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 * Delete unless proof is produced that the company passes WP:CORP. A comment on the links:


 * is a reprinted press release. Doesn't count.
 * - Self-published. Doesn't count.
 * This is the only reliable source provided, but it's a stock recommendation.
 * Directory entry. Doesn't count.
 * MER-C 10:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - Agree with MER-C. Does not appear to pas WP:CORP. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 12:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't Delete this article


 * Keep Apparently it's in a 30-member index on the BSE. I think that passes WP:CORP. Akihabara 13:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Nevertheless I suggest the article be considerably cleaned up and not read like promotional literature. Akihabara 13:54, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

The Company is listed in BSE and NSE
 * Keep - Can we move the links somewhere else? Its really bothersome. Baka man  18:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

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 * http://myiris.com/shares/company/snapShotShow.php?icode=GEOSOFSC
 * http://myiris.com/shares/company/writeDet.php?icode=geosofsc#rec
 * http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/801654
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The article shall not be deleted.

2.The company or corporation is listed on ranking indices of important companies produced by well-known and independent publications (The company is described in many IT magazines of India, it is popular in Indian IT circles, the article has value in Indian context.

3.The company's or corporation's share price is used to calculate stock market indices. See Bombay Stock Exchange or BSE Sensex. The company is traded in Bombay Stock Exchange.

Thus it passes WP:CORP : Criteria for companies and corporations

The article may be added to WikiProject India

Don't Delete, Please go through the following links
For more information, on Geometric Software and its products and its activites, please go through the following links. I could not classify them. Before deciding to delete this article please go through these links Jijithnr 15:18, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


 * http://www.google.com/Top/Computers/CAD_and_CAM/Development/
 * http://www.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/20768.wss
 * http://www.deskeng.com/Articles/Feature/Q&A-with-Mike-Coleman-20051111733.html
 * http://corp.naukri.com/mynaukri/mn_newminnernew.php?filename=041206000427&othersrcpjobs=&othersrcp=&id=&searchloc=
 * http://www.engineersedge.com/technology_news/posts/45.html
 * http://www.emailwire.com/news/sof2015.shtml
 * http://www.gxsc.com/pdf/MultiCADeDraw.pdf
 * http://www.proe.com/news_full.php?cpfeatureid=17062&PHPSESSID=c75a189074082f8ff7d7ff8063f1ebbf
 * http://www.ciol.com/content/search/showarticle1.asp?artid=88861
 * http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_March_16/ai_n13250155
 * http://3dsearchit.geometricsoftware.com/UserDetails.aspx?download=1&productid=52
 * http://www.rediff.com/computer/1998/apr/21geomet.htm
 * http://www.xpdmgateway.com/
 * http://www.hinduonnet.com/businessline/2003/07/23/stories/2003072301370700.htm
 * http://www.bseindia.com/qresann/news.asp?newsid=%7BDFDE4AAF-6541-4518-AA47-1977A3777351%7D
 * http://www.enablingangels.com/PressReleases/release7872.php
 * http://www.ams.stonybrook.edu/~jsbm/hotlist.html
 * http://www.careerindia.com/walkin/allwalkinsdetails.php?id=559&catid=332
 * http://www.punerealestate.com/Feature_on_Hinjewadi_IT_Park/softwarecompanies_offices.htm
 * http://aecnews.com/news/2006/06/28/1893.aspx
 * http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-24980803_ITM
 * http://aecnews.com/news/2006/06/28/1893.aspx
 * http://forum.myiris.com/shares/discussionBoard/viewAll.php?cat=EQUITY&iriscode=GEOSOFSC
 * http://www.deepika.com/english/archives/ENG5_sub.asp?newsdate=06/20/2006&ccode=ENG5&hcode=141929
 * http://www.ptc.com/appserver/wcms/standards/linkothumbredirect.jsp?&im_dbkey=27010&icg_dbkey=841
 * http://www.cxotoday.com/India/News/Geometric_Releases_NestLib_v180/551-71957-911.html
 * http://ecat.mcadcafe.com/product_list.php?category_id=4010093%2C4010094%2C4010087
 * http://www.equitymaster.com/detail.asp?date=3/2/2006&story=4
 * http://www.ircc.iitb.ac.in/webnew/ProjectFiles/SP2000.html
 * http://www.windowsmarketplace.ca/results.aspx?bCatID=179&av=14-39321
 * http://www.dqindia.com/content/industrymarket/focus/2006/106021004.asp
 * http://www.memagazine.org/contents/current/marketplace/software/software.html
 * http://www.mertz.com/transactions-more_info.asp?TID=78
 * http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0194530.htm
 * http://www.solidworks.com.cn/pages/partners/PartnerDetails.html?ID=3090&productid=655
 * http://www.9iv.com/down/soft/394.htm


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 * Keep - I think it passes WP:CORP because it's listed on the BSE stock exchange, but this article needs a serious rewrite and clean-up, because it's one big mess at the moment; very promotional and not real references. Jayden54 16:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Above comment misunderstands WP:CORP. Being listed on an exchange is not sufficient -- the related criterion is being used to compute major market indexes.  The BSE allows small companies with almost no trading volume.  This company trades under 500 shares most days.  Revenue is around $36 million gross revenue, which is hardly industry-leading.  No independent significant news hits -- all the above articles seem to be press releases or promotional sites.  Robert A.West (Talk) 23:29, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Keep Anybody who follow the links given above will find many links to support the article. It may require clean up, but surely not a candidate for deletion. - Jijithnr 08:57, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Duplicate recommendation. Jijithnr already expressed his opinion above in boldface. Each person should recommend only once. Robert A.West (Talk) 12:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep with rewrite. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt as to notability, but the article needs to be seriously trimmed down to a brief summary of the company, without the bulky quasi-promotional bullet points. Peter Grey 17:10, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CORP. Note that flooding an AFD with what seem to be search engine results isn't particularly helpful either.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  17:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete as not fulfilling WP:CORP. Ford MF 11:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. After reading User:Jijithnr's comments, my first impression was that this company meets Notability (companies and corporations). I went through all the external links provided, but none of them convinced me that the company is notable enough to warrant an article in Wikipedia. Jyothisingh 14:14, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Jyothisingh, does not meet WP:CORP, being able to generate links doesnt really make it meet the requirements. Didn't go through all of them, 20+ is a bit much, but those I did, didnt seem to make it. --Nuclear Zer0 15:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, the company is notable and listed in one of the top 200 comanies in BSE Sensex. Shyam  ( T / C ) 16:20, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Interesting. "Geometric Software Solutions, Ltd." does appear to be a significant part of one of the BSE indexes, while "Geometric Software Solutions Private, Ltd." is not mentioned.  There are two orders of magnitude difference in the number of Google hits.  Do we have a small company with a confusingly similar name to a notable one?  Do we have a confusion here between alternative names for the same company?  Is this a common/preferred share distinction, or something similar?  Should this article be moved to "Geometric Software Solutions, Ltd?"  I'm not sure what to do at this point. Robert A.West (Talk) 16:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Was listed. Included May 2003; replaced September 2004. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.