Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Hotz


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The result was keep as he has received media coverage not directly related to the iPhone hacking (e.g., his science project, what he's doing with his life now). WP:BLP1E does not apply because of that additional coverage. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:19, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

George Hotz

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I feel that the George Hotz article should be deleted because the subject is not notable enough per WP:BIO guidelines.

The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field

His unlocking the iPhone was received media coverage because of the iPhone's widespread popularity. However, this does not mean he is notable enough to be "part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field." If this passes the bar for inclusion into the Wikipedia, then what about all the other hackers out there who cracked Windows, the Wii, or any other widely-used consumer product? (Sure, some of these people may wish to remain anonymous, but that's beyond the point.)

Hotz has very little claim to fame besides the iPhone. His award at an Intel competition geared towards high school students is not notable enough.

My two cents. Wikipedian06 (talk) 04:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Multiple reliable and verifiable sources establish notability. Alansohn (talk) 04:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 16:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:BLP1E. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 16:58, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - maybe deserves a blurb in the hacking section of the iPhone article, but nothing more. -FrankTobia (talk) 18:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BLP1E. (Mind meal (talk) 18:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC))
 * Keep this wasa notable accomplishment by itself.DGG (talk) 04:29, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I think he deserves to be part of wikipedia because he did a quite important thing and he got media coverage. [Hamlet]
 * Keep Since there is media coverage of it, i believe it is notable enough to being included. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 14:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree that it was a notable accomplishment. It differs from anyone cracking "any other widely-used consumer product" because of the impact it has made; e.g. The increase in Apple Shares (as mentioned in the CNBC [interview]), Apple's report of 250,000 of the 1.4 million iPhones sold (in September Earnings) having been unlocked, and the estimate of one-third of all iPhones sold having been unlocked. If these "other" cracks on extremely popular products such as the Wii (which was even more popular than the iPhone) were as notable, they too would have received media coverage. However, George's iPhone unlock was significant beyond just a "crack" and thus received (and deserved) a more notable status. Lkrofct 7:22, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to iPhone as this is his only real importance. Mangoe (talk) 23:41, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BLP1E.--Inkhorn (talk) 16:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I just looked him up he is an interesting man and for several reasons: economic impact on apple;as a memebr of the free tech movement 82.69.4.86 (talk) 19:21, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


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