Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Joseph Murray


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The result was   delete. Jayjg (talk) 01:13, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

George Joseph Murray

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Well-sources BLP, but really seems to be a WP:BLP1E. Wikipedia is not news and it is likely that outside of this event, he is not notable. Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 03:18, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree that Wikipedia is not news, nor is it a list of criminals. One might think that George Joseph Murray could be be included in a list of 21st century murderers because of the violence of the crime, but probably not, the number of violent drunken murderers is quite high, unfortunately, and a knife is a common weapon. He didn't make any unique, prolific or innovative contributions to his field. --Bejnar (talk) 03:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a directory listing of every dime a dozen criminal. Fails [WP:NOTNEWS]], fails WP:BLP1E. Edison (talk) 03:33, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Very much a BLP1E case.--Michig (talk) 07:46, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * George Murray is a notorious villain in the north of England. His most recent crime of murder is of great public interest. I note that you have numerous criminals on Wikipedia including the Brinks Matt Robbers!Wikipedia also lists individuals such as Killer Kowalski, a Polish wrestler who bit off a mans ear! I very much doubt that this can be described as making any unique, prolific or innovative contribution to his field. Wikipedia is a source of information and George Murrays page, will, I assure you, be much read as will the reference links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MickElliott (talk • contribs) 10:00, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I am not really sure what the relevance of some of these examples is. Killer Kowalski was notable as a longtime competitor in the world of professional wrestling, not just for one incident in his career, and "Killer" was just a nickname; he did not actually kill anyone. The relevant guidelines for judging Kowalski's notability would be WP:ATHLETE and/or WP:ENTERTAINER. If you want to establish that George Murray is notable, the relevant guideline is WP:PERPETRATOR. It would help if there were sources provided beyond the newspaper of the local area in which the crime occurred; national or international coverage of the crime would be useful in establishing notability. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:43, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:PERPETRATOR. • Gene93k (talk) 16:45, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per WP:BLP1E. Joe Chill (talk) 22:11, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete No indication of notability. Edward321 (talk) 02:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.