Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Kimpton


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. Fram (talk) 15:32, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

George Kimpton

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Article is mostly unsourced, is potentially libellous in places, does not fully establish notability of the subject (some unreferenced statements could establish this if referenced), appears to have been mostly edited by one editor whom I suspect to be the subject from his username and in-depth knowledge of the subject and (self-)promotional language. Halsteadk (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:28, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:28, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

I have worked in this area of the U.K. music business for many years and I find the content of this article to be largely accurate from first hand experience and I can add further evidence to support it. http://www.savoy.abel.co.uk/HTML/blue.html for instance and http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_9?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=lee+benfell&sprefix=lee+benfe%2Cstripbooks%2C413 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.107.13 (talk) 13:46, 16 January 2012 (UTC) Here is another reference to George Kimpton from Wikipedia itself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Waterman_Entertainment — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.107.13 (talk) 13:55, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your replies. As the mention of George Kimpton was added into the Pete Waterman Entertainment article by the same editor who has almost single-handedly edited the George Kimpton article, I don't see that this adds anything to your argument for notability. diff This is aside from the fact that Wikipedia cannot source itself (even if it had been written by someone different). Accurate or not, a link to a quote that someone called George Kimpton worked for Pinnacle Records, and a single book on Amazon don't really answer the questions of notability, or that the article seems to have been written self-promotionally and needs a lot of things backed up with verifiable references. Your first-hand experience is not relevant as we have no way of knowing you are who you claim. WP:VERIFY Halsteadk (talk) 18:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello. I think the article should stay. It is definitely true that Kimpton wrote the book and his time at rough trade is well recorded by respected journalist, Neil taylor in the book rough trade. his directorships of both rough trade and dressed to kill (dtk) are evidenced at all company search sites (http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/900896680 ).He Googles very strongly particularly under the name georgie kimpton where many links show video evidence of his time as pinnacle boss with the likes of Jason donovan, frank zappa and captain sensible of the damned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.63.132 (talk) 21:23, 16 January 2012 (UTC) 
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 10:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

 I have just used the George Kimpton article and was linked to this discussion page. Firstly I would like to commend Wiki for this forensic policy. I note that most of the points I intended to offer in support of GK's page have broadly been made in this discussion. Evidence of his directorship of Rough Trade has already been made here and if that doesnt make someone noteworthy... Wiki's greatest worth is its depth and scope. Clearly we dont want bogus information but when something or someone is clearly varifiable, the inclusion is of benefit to all. The NME site has a great clip of GK with 80's popstar, Hazell Dean. Thumbs up! http://www.nme.com/nme-video/youtube/id/DSGmJ2lQQoo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.63.132 (talk) 12:13, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Please don't come here pretending to be a different person to the previous contributor to this discussion - you are editing from exactly the same IP address, 90.212.63.132. Halsteadk (talk) 14:36, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Alpha_Quadrant    (talk)  22:04, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - Seems very fishy! I would have thought if the author of the article was the also subject, they would know of any in-depth coverage about themselves. The only thing I can find online is the book about Rough trade, where George Kimpton-Lowe is mentioned disparagingly on several occasions. Granted the events took place a long time ago, but you would think there would be at least a few ripples on the Google-osphere if Kimpton was truly noticed. The article has no reliable sources. Sionk (talk) 22:31, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Mr Kimpton sounds like an interesting chap, and he could be notable if all his, sorry, the article's claims could be supported by RS. But they aren't. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 02:32, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
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