Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George P. Broussard


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Bishonen &#124; talk 22:52, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

George P. Broussard

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This is another Billy Hathorn Louisiana biography without notability. The subject fails WP:SOLDIER and WP:GNG. The LA Secretary of State link only confirms his wife's voter registration and Find a Grave is self-published so this article rests on only one source, this book. While that source might be reliable (the entry indicates it's based on the family's documents, not academic research), it's not independent and doesn't connote notability. The newspaper citations are mere mentions. I don't see notability here. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 20:58, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 21:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 21:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - not notable; not inherited (as "son of a US senator"), either, per GNG. More of a local news trivia story. Kierzek (talk) 21:04, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per Kierzac. Creator is a blocked, banned sock. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:50, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep  An entry by the Louisiana Historical Association in their Dictionary of Louisiana Biography makes this person notable. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:27, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Please show me a policy, guideline, or essay that bears that out. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 00:35, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Ten-year old post. Subject declared notable by Louisiana Historical Association. The Daily Iberian called him "world renowned cattle practitioner." 204.32.229.190 (talk) 12:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   14:53, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Since Wikipedia is a paperless encyclopedia, and has plenty of room on the servers, the bar for notability focuses on the availability of reliable sources to allow readers to verify that a topic is not a hoax.  The nomination makes it clear that the creator of the article is the target here, but civility remains one of our fundamental principles, and had this article been G5 eligible, G5 does not require AfD.  Unscintillating (talk) 23:27, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - when a regional historical association deems someone notable, I find it hard to disagree. Also, historians often use information from an individual's family in there work, so I don't see how that is non-academic. That said, this subject was an officer of the Attakapas Historical Association, which casts some doubt on independence. On the other hand, the editors of the Louisiana Dictionary of Biography are, I think, Carl A. Brasseaux & James D. Wilson, Jr. (of the University of Louisiana at Lafayette) and Glenn Russell Conrad; and their inclusion of Broussard in the book seems to be enough to me. Smmurphy(Talk) 17:32, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete This is not the Louisiana encyclopedia, and nothing about Broussard is notable beyond very local Louisiana issues.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:10, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep "World renowned" researcher. One of 88 veterinarians in category "American veterinarians", consistent with articles on other veterinarians, some of whom are also politicians and athletes. 64.134.58.105 (talk) 15:51, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * 'One of only' is not a recognised inclusion criterion -  or can you  provide a link? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:30, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Further comments should be grounded in Wikipedia's notability guidelines.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - No evidence of notability. Write-up by local historical society is not sufficient. I question the one possible claim to notability: "conducted important research on the diseases of anaplasmosis and brucellosis". There is no evidence of this. There are thousands and thousands of journal articles on these diseases and none are authored by this person.Glendoremus (talk) 04:58, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * There is evidence of notability. Local historical societies are accepted by WP:GNG.  I don't know why the article calls the research "important", but the reliable source otherwise sources the statement.  As for 1000s and 1000s of journal articles, were you by any chance looking on the internet?  How many journal articles from before 1977 are available on the internet?  Unscintillating (talk) 05:23, 19 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete -- no notability or significance (except for the vague "world renowned" claim) found in this WP:MEMORIAL-toned article. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:31, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:MEMORIAL states, "Memorials. Subjects of encyclopedia articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirements." Significance is a speedy deletion criteria, and there is evidence of notability.  Unscintillating (talk) 05:23, 19 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete -- Article appears to be a cobbled construction of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH which fails to demonstrate any notability. The assertion of significance as a "world-renowned" veterinarian is not made by the news source, but rather is an offhand remark by an acquaintance/colleague in an article about someone else entirely. No evidence of this alleged "renown" is found in reliable sources, such as scholarly or trade journals. — Cactus Writer (talk) 18:01, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The article is about changes in the veterinarian industry in Iberia Parish in recent decades...the state’s second licensed veterinarian, Dr. J. Arthur Goodwin trained three people from the late 1930s to the late 1960s, those being Dr. Harold Reaux, Dr. George Broussard, and Dr. A.A. Woodburn. The reliable source reads, "Broussard was a world renowned cattle practitioner, he said..."  The "he" is identified with the sentence, "Dr. Roger Boughton, owner of Iberia Animal Clinic on Center Street, started practicing in New Iberia in 1967 under Woodburn and worked with him for nearly 20 years."  When an interviewee is speaking as a subject matter expert, that material is secondary, thus goes to WP:GNG.  WP:notability states, "Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things such as fame, importance, or popularity—although those may enhance the acceptability of a subject that meets the guidelines explained below."  Unscintillating (talk) 04:14, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:OR means reporting stuff that has not been published. Since your post doesn't give any examples of WP:OR, its claim is not verifiable.  As for WP:SYNTH, given A Dictionary of Louisiana Biography, the question remains as to what is being synthesized.  As for the article failing to demonstrate any notability, notability creates no content requirements...notability is defined outside of Wikipedia.  Unscintillating (talk) 05:23, 19 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. Broussard doesn't pass WP:SOLDIER. If he passes some other standard, such as veterinary medicine, editors from such a group, if one exists, would need to weigh in.-- Jim in Georgia  Contribs  Talk  19:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * A topic can be notable under WP:GNG without editors from special interest groups weighing in.&nbs; See the lede of WP:Notability. Unscintillating (talk) 05:10, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete cant see anything of note in the article other than the claim "world renowned cattle practitioner" which is cited to another local vet. the man himself so hardly an independent source. MilborneOne (talk) 23:30, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment The Daily Iberian article says that Dr. Roger Boughton called Dr. Broussard "a world renowned cattle practitioner". Dr. Broussard did not say that about himself. Dr. Broussard was declared notable in 1988, eleven years after his death, by the Louisiana Historical Association.2602:304:B23B:54B0:A8BA:743D:9853:C4BE (talk) 21:31, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep The five previous "Delete" recommendations have all been debunked. Subject is notable through Louisiana Historical Assn.71.41.136.211 (talk) 14:37, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. For all the kerfuffle over whether the Dictionary of Louisiana Biography automatically makes a person notable (show me where that aligns with the general notability guideline?), I don't see any discussion of significant coverage. And no, The Daily Iberian is a local paper, and the reason they added "he said" is because the superlative of Broussard as "world-renowned" isn't settled, but a quote from a local vet. As it would be irresponsible for the paper to claim Broussard is "world-renowned" based on a local vet, so it would be for us. If Broussard is world-renowned, the time to see the sources has already passed. The only precedent we need to follow here is sourcing. (Also Findagrave is user-submitted/unreliable. All of those links should be removed.) czar  16:39, 24 February 2017 (UTC)


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