Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Right Smith


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The result was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:07, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

George Right Smith

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per WP:BASIC. While this is a massive article, a perusal reveals only a paragraph's worth of material about the subject (WP:SCOPE; WP:COATRACK; WP:MASK) with no reliable secondary sourcing. I pleaded for improvements on the talk page with no avail. —  AjaxSmack 19:59, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete No credible claim of notability. Being a private (or a lieutenant for that matter) does not meet WP:SOLDIER. The claim that he was a "notable citizen" is not supported by the article, which merely says that he bought a farm, got married, had children, and lived a full life. Which is nice, but not notable. (I also find it hard to believe that he sold two bales of hay for $2,000 each.)  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  23:14, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as WP:NOTMEMORIAL, this is an interesting article about the war written from the point of view of the South, but scrolling down, Smith is hardly mentioned, it doesnt even say how/why he was promoted to 2nd/1st Lieutenant, reflecting the lack of significant/indepth sources. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  J  947 &thinsp;(c) , at 02:28, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions.  J  947 &thinsp;(c) , at 02:28, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Comment.This is an interesting article. It seems there's years of research behind what he's writing. See here or there! IMHO, the question of using self-published sources has to be answered. His work was cited in an academic paper in 2004, so perhaps we could also do that. Is that sufficient to qualify him as an expert? His work is part of the Civil War Virtuel Archives Ring, which was cited here… Genium. 19:41, Aug 15, 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Concur with above. Article is sourced mainly to PRIMARY sources (e.g. service record), and then WP:COATRACKed with a description of the war. This is followed by an obit in what appears to be a local paper (unsure). Essentially - we have a civil war history told through the eyes of Smith's campaign record. Icewhiz (talk) 15:23, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete -- This is clearly a potentially well-researched article, but on a NN Civil War junior officer. The article may well be worth preserving somewhere, but it is no encyclopaedic and does not belong in WP.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:51, 17 August 2019 (UTC)


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