Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Georges Rivière


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The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Spartaz Humbug! 05:29, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Georges Rivière

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Appears to fail WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. According to IMDb, the subject died on 25 April 2011, in Cannes, Alpes-Maritimes, France. Is this true with other references? Tagged for living people on the English Wikipedia, who are dead on other Wikipedias, since February 2022. Yours sincerely, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 23:56, 26 September 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:58, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, France, Oceania,  and Argentina. Yours sincerely, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 23:56, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * French wikipedia doesn't say he's passed away. I guess that's why we don't consider ImdB a reliable source. Oaktree b (talk) 00:15, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It is the Spanish Wp that considers him dead. See my comment below (includes 2 sources that mention it, one in English, one in French but this might all be based on a confusion (another GR who did die in Cannes that day, but not same middle names ). - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  00:28, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment He was in the Longest Day and the Musketeers movie, I'm amazed there isn't more written about him. All I can find is a cast list for the Longest Day in a period newspaper that lists him. Oaktree b (talk) 00:27, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * There's lots of film reviews on Trove which mention him, but nothing substantial. Would he be in old French cinema magazines 9and if so, can anyone access and read them?) IdiotSavant (talk) 03:59, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete unless we can pull up sources, I can't find any. Looked at BNF Gallica, the NYT link above and in the Wikipedia library ProQuest. No sources for this actor found. Oaktree b (talk) 00:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * One of the things that needs to be investigated further is coverage in books, because I'm seeing a fair bit on this actor. Some perhaps meeting SIGCOV. Silver  seren C 01:05, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * These are just name drops, I can't find anything extensive about him. Oaktree b (talk) 15:33, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails GNG And NACTOR per nom. UtherSRG (talk) 11:02, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly passes criteria 1 of WP:NACTOR based on the filmography alone. I'd also not that both images at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Georges_Rivi%C3%A8re_(actor) are of the front covers of French language magazines and have the actor on the front cover which indicates that these publications have significant coverage of the subject. That would seem to indicate that the subject also passes WP:SIGCOV. It's likely that the actor is also covered in other French language media of the period (ie newspaper articles, film criticism, etc.)4meter4 (talk) 16:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Those magazines are Spanish-language from Argentina. I suppose they might have coverage in Argentine sources, but I have no idea where to look for archived magazines from that country. Oaktree b (talk) 15:01, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching my error. I assumed incorrectly that they were French. The point remains the same though. An actor making the front cover of a magazine is going to have SIGCOV in that magazine.4meter4 (talk) 19:29, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep. Significant roles (including lead roles) in multiple notable films make him meet WP:NACTOR fairly.
 * Noted as "the beau of Argentine cinema" -as Jorge Rivier.
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 * As for Rivière being alive or not: even though Sens Critique and various websites and the following book mention him dead 2011 in Cannes, I think it is safer and fairer to consider him alive. The absence of any obituary is a rather strong indication, I find.
 * Not that this is necessary to meet the criterion, but his roles have received coverage. More sources exist, in Spanish for example:

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 * .- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  00:23, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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