Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Georgetown International Relations Club


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. —  Aitias  // discussion 13:10, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Georgetown International Relations Club

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Contested speedy. A non notable student society that fails WP:GROUP. No evidence of coverage in independent reliable sources offered in the article and none available on searching. Nuttah (talk) 17:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

On the subject of why I declined the speedy deletion request: There seems to be some common misconceptions over CSD at play here. A7 is used for articles that do not indicate notability; this article has offered a reason why it might be notable. In that case, we discuss the subject at AfD, to ascertain whether it is notable. Indications of notability and evaluations of notability are two completely different things; cf. SPEEDY. Make sense? (And thanks for being patient with me whilst I finally catch up. :-)) AGK 18:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Goodbye per nom. The Rolling Camel (talk) 17:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Remark. The speedy deletion request was not "contested," but rather was declined (by me). WP:NOT is explicitly not a valid rationale for speedy deletion, although it is a valid rationale for deletion after an Articles for Deletion discussion. Wikipedia is simply not in the game of mass-deleting any article that possibly doesn't conform to our idea of what Wikipedia is without due discussion—hence the requirement for WP:NOT deletions to be made after an AfD discussion (rather than further to a speedy deletion request). Comment stricken; the WP:NOT part is not pertinent, per Nuttah, to this discussion. AGK 18:14, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Further comment. This is the second such correction I've had to make. Curiously, the other correction was on a nomination by The Rolling Camel, who has commented above—it's a small world, eh? AGK 18:20, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. WP:NOT was not the reason given for speedy deletion, so I fail to see the relevance of your remark, especially as it contradicts the reason you gave for declining/contesting the speedy. It was nominated as A7:a group or club that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject, which is a valid rationale for speedy deletion - hence the A7. Nuttah (talk) 18:41, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * A7 does not cover issues of WP:NOT, but rather issues of WP:N. That's the relevance of my remark. AGK 18:48, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * For crying out loud. I nominated as A7:a group or club that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. Which part of that relates to WP:NOT? It is lifted directly from the critera. Nuttah (talk) 18:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ahh. … Sorry, that was my fault; I became mixed up between this AfD and the other one I linked above.
 * No mix up, I just disagree that this article has offered a reason why it might be notable. Nuttah (talk) 19:03, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete unless nontrivial independent reliable sources such as articles in major newspapers about the history of the club can be found to establish the club's notability. Google News Search finds some candidates but most seem either to be about unrelated organizations or to mention the club only trivially (as the host for some event or as an organization that the subject of an article belongs to). As it is, I agree, this looks like a very plausible candidate for A7 speedy deletion. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:32, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete--Can't find notability either for this club. Drmies (talk) 05:15, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 06:12, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 06:12, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.