Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Georgia Bitner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:23, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Georgia Bitner

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This person does not appear to meet Wikipedia's notability standards. The article is presently sourced entirely to a blog, and Googling for "Georgia Bitner" on Google Books, News, and News archives didn't turn up anything that would satisfy WP:BASIC, only this (which is behind a paywall but appears to be an obituary with only a passing mention of Bitner) and this (which looks like a false positive). CtP (t • c) 19:14, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:39, 13 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 19:09, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Delete - She may have been a well-known actress at her time but I haven't found any evidence of this with modern technology and I'm surprised I haven't found anything with Google News archives. However, considering that she is African-American, there may have been little or few news coverage at her time. The nearest relevant mention I have found is to a Georgia C. Bitner who died in 1991. Unfortunately, delete. SwisterTwister   talk  22:08, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dori ☾Talk ☯ Contribs☽ 00:48, 28 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - This is a really tough one. There's an obvious (and I think valid) argument to be made that the subject is notable (given the assertion that she had "38 film roles and 87 television credits") but not necessarily notable in a manner that can be verified. I don't think its an imaginative stretch to suggest that a white actor with similar credits might have received more "significant coverage" in mainstream media. Many of the most high-profile African-American "celebrities" (in all fields) of the 40s and 50s received far less "coverage" than their white co-stars / colleagues. Unfortunately for the subject in question, gradually increasing press coverage of African-Americans through the 70s, 80s and 90s coincided with the end of her career and her retirement. Retrospective coverage of the career of a non-headlining actress is unlikely, regardless of the extent to which might balance out historically skewed reporting. Every argument I can give for keeping it would be resoundingly WP:ILIKEIT in nature and I won't insult your intelligence by trying. But I would ask that any closing admin give consideration to whether or not a strong and obvious consensus has been reached, in making their determination. Thanks all, Stalwart 111  (talk) 03:51, 28 September 2012 (UTC).
 * Delete as a probable WP:HOAX. That many roles, yet IMDb has no record of any of them whatsoever and refuses to list her as an actress? The Best Years of Our Lives, her alleged debut, has dozens of uncredited actors listed in IMDb, but not her. Same with the other very high profile films claimed. Very, very suspicious. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:07, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Although there are few sources about the subject, it is possible that IMDb may not have a record as a result of lost films or archives. However, it is suspicious that older actors from the 1900s and 1910s are featured through IMDb, and yet not this one. Suspicious indeed. SwisterTwister   talk  19:43, 28 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - Leaning towards the hoax conclusion as well, but there's some strange info out there. Much of the text is a copy of this finadgrave.com entry.  The Wikipedia article was created 13 Sept 2012 by a now-blocked user (with the same last name as the subject), and the findagrave entry on 14 Sept 2012 by a user there named Babe, the profile says this woman has been a user there for 7 years, so it's not a one-off troll account. Tarc (talk) 16:50, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete diffidently a fake person no information can be found every actress can have and IMDB page its not hard and their are no sources to back up the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.60.150 (talk) 07:42, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
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