Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Georgia Routsis Savas


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Georgia Routsis Savas

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Declining speedy A7 as notability may be detectable by others. Discuss. UtherSRG (talk) 13:54, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete - it's not detectable by me! andy (talk) 13:59, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Argument against - - - This person is notable and in fact rather famous and respected among the Astrology, periodicals and Fashion communities as shown by her having written for several magazines. Furthermore, as shown in the local online paper Star News where she resides, she is an active participant in editorial matters for the paper as well as the subject of articles. Additionally, she was a reporter for CNN's Style with Elsa Klensch before becoming the manager of CNN's new york newsroom unit. Lastly, of which there is a category of, she was a game show contestant on Jeopardy!. She may not be a Connie Chung in the field of journalism but her contributions to media and American culture should not be ignored.BGinOC (talk) 20:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Various astrology books and articles published by her have not received any secondary coverage or significant attention by independent sources. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Argument against - - - I defer to the nomination of her book Seventeen: Total Astrology in the American Library Association's 2001 list of Quick Picks for Reluctant Young Adult Readers as significant attention to her writing ability and relevance to young readers.BGinOC (talk) 07:42, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There were 78 other titles on the list that year. This book did not make it into the top ten. This doesn't come anywhere near meeting WP's notability citeria - the book itself is not notable and its author even less so. andy (talk) 08:17, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  00:25, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

Just because her book listed in the 2001 list of Quick Picks for Reluctant Young Adult Readers was not in the top ten should be irrelevant especailly considering that we have musicians listed herein who's works never made the top 40 but were in the top 100. At what point does a number represent relevance? the Top 10 (letterman's famous lists), the Top 100 (Billboard) or the Top 500 (Fortune 500)? Point is, this author has not only had multiple books published (granted they were for a niche that is considered by many to be a joke, but nonetheless they were published and sold well. If Ralph H. Blum is worthy of mention in Wikipedia for his studies regarding runes and the publication of his only publication "The Book of Runes," than so should Savas whose notoriety expands beyond divination and astrology but also includes fashion writing and even an appearance on Jeopardy!BGinOC (talk) 08:21, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ralph Blum was the subject of an article that was deleted because of his lack of notability. The article was reinstated so that it could be used as a redirect, as he played a minor role in the development of Runic magic. Savas doesn't even rise to Blum's low level of notability as a footnote because she's done nothing other than write some non-notable books and appear on a gameshow! Unlike Blum she doesn't even merit a redirect. andy (talk) 22:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete, the appearance on Jeopardy! is the closest thing she has to notability, and I think that speaks for itself. Stifle (talk) 17:55, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
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