Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Georgia van Cuylenburg


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:49, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Georgia van Cuylenburg

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ENT the only in-depth independent coverage I can find is this which surely can't be enough? Theroadislong (talk) 20:04, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG. Only refs as of January 10 are interviews. David notMD (talk) 13:08, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment Looks like there was an article in the Miami Herald years ago (https://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/22/2420251/documentary-gets-to-the-root-of.html) but the link is broken. The Internet Archive doesn't have captures of it... maybe someone else knows another archive site that might? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, the only thing written about her is that she voice-acted a major character in Final Fantasy XIII which, if combined with other accomplishments would merit notability, by itself fails WP:ENT. MarkH21 (talk) 15:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Apparently she also wrote and directed a play called "Read My Lips" about her experience with anorexia, according to a 450+ word story in the Herald Sun: Bakazaka (talk) 15:29, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment I am currently working to find reputable sources to put in and edit. Please bear with me! MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 18:09, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment She also directed and starred in Baby Let Your Hair Hang Down, a movie about alopecia. I had a lot of IMDB sources of her work in voice acting/other but they were deleted- unsure what's a reputable source to prove what she's done but I can add them here once I figure it out-- is IMDB not a reputable source for first reference? MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 19:24, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * IMDb is not a reliable source as it can be edited by anyone. Theroadislong (talk) 19:32, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment Wow! I had no idea. Thank you, that helps a lot. MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 19:52, 11 January 2019 (UTC
 * Comment As stated above, Baby Let Your Hair Hang Down movie as shown on ABC
 * Comment Played Ensign Raina Temple MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 22:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Played Sydney in Pay Day 2 Is this a good link? Would a YouTube link ever work to show her voice in the role? MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 22:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Finding_Nemo_Submarine_Voyage|Narrator for Finding Nemo: Submarine Voyage and Finding Nemo - The Musical MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk)
 * Comment Standup comedian in several outlets- what is the procedure for linking to those? MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 22:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Involved in helping girls through virtual reality MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 22:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * CommentThat's funny gameshow for kids Was on Jimmy Kimmel apparently, but that's an episode number of a lot of episodes and I'd need to look elsewhere besides IMDB. MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 22:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Read My Lips play as stated above (Thanks for the help) MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 22:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Many more voiceover projects, need to find the best links proving it going off of IMDB- would YouTube clips work or... MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 22:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Humanitarian Initiatives such as Arts Bridging the Gap, Hearts 4 Community Action (I have photos of her working with this group once uploaded to Public Domain) but unsure of if I can link the initiatives in general. I have print articles but would need to upload them to the site under public domain?? MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 21:59, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but none of these are in-depth coverage and in any case Wikia, Youtube, IMDb, press releases etc. are not reliable sources for establishing notability. Theroadislong (talk) 22:53, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete I cannot see anywhere near sufficient IRS.  If there were IRS for all of, or even just a significant number of, the facts in the unredacted version of the article, it would be a definite keep, but I am unable to find such.  Perhaps move to DRAFT space until the current paid author can get their material together?  Aoziwe (talk) 12:23, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Draftify I agree that the version of the article ca 29 December has a lot of information about her roles which could indicate notability (it also gives more to search on, now I've realised that it's there). My understanding of WP:NACTOR "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" is that if there is reliable evidence to verify those roles, that is enough - that it can be primary evidence to verify information (ie, websites etc of/from the companies that made the programs or games). I do consider the ABC News story mentioned above to be independent, reliable and significant. The LA Weekly story has less coverage, but does verify one of her philanthropic roles. Perhaps draftifying would be the best option at this point, then editors who wish to can work on it until it's ready for main space. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:44, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course, even if primary sources verify information, they do not demonstrate whether the productions themselves are notable under something like WP:NF. That needs to be demonstrated on top of verifying that the roles are significant. MarkH21 (talk) 10:40, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, and the 29 December version of the article includes 3 blue-linked video games that she had significant roles in. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:13, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm skeptical about whether her roles in Star Wars: The Old Republic (character not named anywhere on the Wikipedia article) and Payday 2 (side character mentioned once in a long plot synopsis) are really significant. The other role is the Final Fantasy XIII character which I would consider a significant role in a notable production as noted before. MarkH21 (talk) 18:14, 16 January 2019 (UTC)


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