Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald "Jerry" Kilcourse


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The result was   merge to Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest.  MBisanz  talk 21:37, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Gerald "Jerry" Kilcourse

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I don't think the hotdog eating contest winners are sufficiently notable. if necessary a blurb can be merged into the Nathan's Hotdog Contest article as a section, but standalone it fails BLP criteria Shadowjams (talk) 20:30, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge his records to Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. (It doesn't fail BLP because he's dead, Jams.) Clarityfiend (talk) 22:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I use BLP for shorthand for biographies without even realizing it... that's not the basis for my nom anyway. Shadowjams (talk) 18:01, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:08, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge per above since the whole article and fame is connected to the contest. SalHamton (talk) 22:08, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Nine consecutive wins in the Super Bowl of hot dog eating--that makes him Best In His Field, which is Notable.  The article mentions a controversy that caused him to leave competitive eating - I'd like to know more about what the controversy was.  Finally many of the more recent competitors--not winners, just competitors--have their own articles, and I don't believe it's fair to penalize him just because (a) he competed in the 50's, or (b) because they didn't have 10 sports channels at the time to cover such events. Listmeister (talk) 15:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC) (P.S. I know about WP:OSE, I refer you to Nutshell Bullet Point Two:  "When used properly, a logical rationalization of "Other Stuff Exists" may be used in a perfectly valid manner in discussions of what articles to create, delete, or retain.")


 * Redirect to Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. I am very suprised that I was unable to find anything in Google News or Google Books serching 'Kilcourse hot dog'. I would have thought that he would have been covered somewhere. Since notability is determined by the coverage not the achievement this should not remain as a stand alone page but a redirect is certainly acceptable. J04n(talk page) 10:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Notability is not temporary, but sometimes it's slow in coming. There is a systemic bias in favor of recent events because the volume of coverage is so much greater.  In this case, the achievement does determine the notability.  When they show this event on ESPN 360, they're gonna mention this guy because he holds the record for most consecutive wins.  Besides, Ripley's Believe it or Not reported it, that's coverage.Listmeister (talk) 15:12, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
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