Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geraldine Innocente


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There was no support for deleting the article. One response asked to reference that the article for a keep, however sources not in the article can establish notability per WP:NEXIST. (non-admin closure) gidonb (talk) 03:18, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Geraldine Innocente

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No assertion of notability. Google scholar turns up nothing. Wqwt (talk) 22:08, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:42, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:02, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Thsmi002 (talk) 13:42, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Not that an actual assertion of notability is required, but the article does contain such an assertion: that Innocente founded a New Age church The Bridge to Freedom. Apart from the two references in the article, GoogleBooks searching does produce a few other relevant sources. E.g. there is an article "Ascended Master Teaching Foundation" on pp. 77-78 of The Encyclopedia of Cults, Sects, and New Religions that largely deals with Innocente's activities. Similarly, there is coverage (see pp. 168-169) of Handbook of the Theosophical Current. Other examples of coverage are, , , . That's not a huge amount of coverage but taken together I think there is enough here to pass WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Nsk92 (talk) 01:23, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:31, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I would like to propose a policy that any deletion discussion that includes the phrase "no assertion of notability" be automatically closed as keep and the nominator be banned for a year from creating new deletion nominations. "No assertion of notability" is not and has never been a criterion for deletion.  There are sources beyond what  listed above to be found in this GScholar search, which cast quite a bit of doubt on nom's false statement that there are no sources available there, but they're not necessary to dispositively demonstrate notability. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 13:29, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * If you want to propose such an aggressive measure, you may do so on the appropriate page, which is not this one. Wqwt (talk) 21:28, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * If you want to instruct me on what you consider to be the acceptable venue for proposing policy changes you might wait for an instance of my actually proposing one, which is not this one. If you want to nominate pages for deletion, you may do so by citing actual reasons for deletion, of which "no assertion of notability" is not one. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 14:57, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Your first sentence is unnecessarily inflammatory and does not add to the discussion. You could've just left it at "'No assertion of notability' is not and has never been a criterion for deletion." Wqwt (talk) 04:00, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to the new age cult she founded. If anyone can source details, e.g. dates of birth, upbringing, even in paper source, I'd reconsider. Tony May (talk) 03:44, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, w umbolo   ^^^  21:57, 9 November 2018 (UTC)


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