Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/German-Speaking Stars and Statesmen abroad


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The result was   delete. WP:SNOW  MBisanz  talk 00:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

German-Speaking Stars and Statesmen abroad

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The article creator also created Category:German-Speaking Stars and Statesmen abroad along with this, and it has also been nominated for deletion. My 'delete' argument there applies here, as well: Arbitrary inclusion criteria (what constitutes a "star"?), a nonsensical grouping (why stars and statesmen?), non-encyclopedic language (again, stars being completely arbitrary), and an undefined inclusion criteria (abroad? abroad from where?). faithless  (speak)  05:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete nonsensical and ill-defined category, per nom.; several people on it aren't from Germany (how shall we judge Kirk Douglas's fluency?). JJL (talk) 05:26, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete All you need to do to get on the list is be born in Germany or Austria, leave the country, and become a "star" or "statesman". Or else learn German in school and then become famous. Steve Dufour (talk) 05:48, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 07:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as listcruft. Also impossible to maintain; can you imagine the sheer size of "everyone notable born in germany and ventured outside its borders"? Ironholds (talk) 10:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Not because it's that bad of an idea for a list, but because it's completely unsourced. For all I know, Leonardo DiCaprio and Sandra Bullock actually can carry on a "Wie gehts"-"Gut, und dir?" conversation, but I've never heard of it before now.  I think this is mostly original research based on assumptions that a person with a German ancestor can speak the language fluently.  Mandsford (talk) 14:31, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. The nomination says it all. What an illogical title/topic for an article. Timneu22 (talk) 16:02, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete apart from the fact it's mistitled and miscapitalized, it's got trivial inclusion criteria if any. Is someone who can speak two words of German included? What amount of fluency is needed? If every notable celebrity or statesperson speaking a reasonable amount of German is included, the list would be too unwieldy. - Mgm|(talk) 16:15, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


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