Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/German universities affiliated with Pope Benedict XVI


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Merge makes most sense, and appears the most popular view, but, as TheMadBaron says, the information already exists in a much better form within the Pope Benedict XVI article. A quick note, if you will, on "merge and delete": it is possible to merge and delete, since we have things like history merges and the like. However, these things are bloody difficult, and not one user has given a good reason for it to be done. If the article wasn't a straight-out delete, no admin in their right mind would merge then delete the resultant redirect just for the heck of it. Please be a bit more sensible. fuddlemark (befuddle me!) 06:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

German universities affiliated with Pope Benedict XVI
It's just a simple list of universities, and furthermore it'll never grow beyond the stage of stub.  —♦♦ SʘʘTHING  (Я)  11:31, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - can easily be merged into Pope Benedict XVI -- where they are probably already mentioned. -- AlexR 11:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge then delete. – Elisson • Talk 12:24, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge then delete as per Johan Elisson and AlexR. --
 * Merge then delete as per above --Noetic Sage 20:06, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: if material is merged, the page must be made into a redirect to preserve attribution under the GFDL. -- Kjkolb 10:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: Technically yes, but these are facts and I don't think they're copyrightable. There's no original authorship there. And to be sure, you can put in the edit summary when you merge that the content is the work of User:Noner. Stifle (talk) 13:29, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

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Please note that despite Stifle's comment above, merge and delete really isn't a valid vote for AfD. That being said, is there any harm in a merge and redirect? Will Wikipedia be harmed if this article were to redirect to Pope Benedict XVI? Or is it best to delete this article entirely? Deathphoenix ʕ 05:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete but place contents on Pope Benedict XVI. I don't see a redirect being worth the trouble.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:51, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * This is identical to "Delete and merge", and is therefore invalid. It has to be either a merge or a delete, not both. --Deathphoenix ʕ 06:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * All this information is already contained within Pope Benedict XVI, so a merge is unnecessary. Pope Benedict XVI is the only page with a link to this article (apart from AfD), and no-one's going to search foe "German universities affiliated with Pope Benedict XVI", so a re-direct is unnecessary. Delete the link from Pope Benedict XVI, and delete this article. TheMadBaron 06:21, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * 'Merge and delete as above. ---CH 07:35, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - duplicate material. No redirect, as no one's going to search for exactly this title. Tyrenius 17:41, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete First, merge and delete is permissible, inasmuch as there are other ways to retain contribution history; nevertheless, we look with disfavor on merge and delete because, FWIK, the requisite work is arduous, and because redirects such as this aren't really harmful. Second, I agree with Stifle that the list is such that, were the text even slightly reworked in a merge, no attribution would be required.  On the whole, though, this information already exists in the Pope Benedict XVI article, and I can see no reason for which we ought to have a separate page enumerating the universities at which one studied/taught.  While the information is notable as part of a biographical article (or even an article apropos of the education of an individual, where such education is of particular importance to the subject overall [as, for example, in William James Sidis]), where it exists solely as a list, WP:NOT is certainly dispositive; a redirect, further, is wholly unnecessary--as Tyrenius says, it is exceedingly unlikely that one would ever search for this phrase.  Joe 17:49, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, redundant as information exists in Pope Benedict XVI. --Ter e nce Ong 04:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.