Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gestir

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The result of the debate was delete. Woohookitty 06:54, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Gestir
This apprently was previously nominated, but someone removed the tag and deleted the VfD page, which seems quite improper. The original article was speedied as a substub with hardly any info. It was on VfU, not fairing too well, when someone wrote the current article, which is certainly not speedy material. As for this band, they have no recordings, but it's been put forth that they pass WP:MUSIC criterion #2. This is somewhat suspect, as playing a few gigs outside of the island you live on is hardly a substantial tour. For example, they played a festival in Copenhagen ("festival" meaning they were just one of many bands). Their best claim to notability is winning a Faroe Islands contest, and as of now I can't tell how great of an accomplishment that is (the Faroe Islands having a population less than that of Eau Claire, Wisconsin). But I'd say it's their only real shot at articleworthiness. gestir band faroe got me 29 google hits.-R. fiend 16:10, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, obviously big in the Faroe Islands. Kappa 16:14, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I wrote the article having read on VfU that the subject was clearly notable and that the subject would be kept as long as someone wrote a proper article, which I did. To me this sort of subject has done enough, the model for bands in Scandanvian country isn't the same as that in America, to which WP:MUSIC guidelines are slanted. Pcb21| Pete 16:23, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Only 1 person in the VfU said they were clearly notable, and didn't exactly give any rationale for that statement. Others (including me) said that creation of an article with significant content wouldn't be speedied, but I didn't see anyone saying such an article would clearly be a keeper either. -R. fiend 16:29, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * My town is bigger than the Faroe Islands, and simply being "big" here certainly doesn't qualify a band for being in an encyclopedia. Fortunately, we have a nice guidelines to help us decide on bands, WP:MUSIC.   If they DO meet the criteria there, by all means the article should make this clear, and I'll reconsider my vote.  Just to put things in perspective, these guys don't even have a record yet.  Article says they're signed to a label which I can't find any information on (other than their website, which makes them sound like a vanity label for music from that particular location).  Anyway, I see no assertion of meeting the music criteria in the article, so I vote Delete for now.  Friday (talk) 16:28, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm certainly willing to entertain the idea that the music guideline is slanted. But help us out here, what would make this band notable?  There are tons of bands with more than one record already out who aren't "important" enough to be included.  Why are these guys special?  Friday (talk) 16:32, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Biggest band in their country.Pcb21| Pete 22:49, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence of meeting WP:MUSIC. -Splash 17:50, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Well apart from the fact that the article makes clear it meets criteria 2. Not that WP:MUSIC is an arbiter on these matters anyway.... Pcb21| Pete 22:49, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Splash. Just more non-notable Danish-Autonomous-Protectorate-based band vanity.... JDoorjam 18:24, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * It isn't vanity. I wrote the article and have nothing to do with the band. Administrator, please disregard the above vote. Pcb21| Pete 22:49, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I know a lot of admins would wish they could (at least with delete votes), but they can't. Any vote by a non-anonymous or sock puppet-user counts. / Peter Isotalo 02:54, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, no record yet. Zoe 19:25, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * As I said, it is normal in Scandanvian countries to be around much longer than American bands before having a record. I repeat, having a record is not the correct barometer to measure inclusion-worthiness by for this entry. Pcb21| Pete 22:49, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete While this band has some claims to notability, they fail to meet WP:Music. However, they will become eligible if their album or a single from it reaches the top 100 of a national chart or they complete a national tour or they release two albums n a major label or significant independent label. It wouldn't surprise me if these guys meet the crriteria within a reasonable period. Their website looks professional. Capitalistroadster 23:59, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless established to meet WP:MUSIC. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 00:31, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. My municipality has a population bigger than the Faroe Islands, but I wouldn't venture to write articles about local bands. A lot about the Faroe Islands is notable, but this is not. / Peter Isotalo 02:54, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - Being the biggest band in the Faroe islands just isn't notable enough. They haven't had anything released.  They are mentioned in Music of the Faroe Islands along with a whole clutch of bands.  This is just like having the house band down at the local pub mentioned.  Local bands without any outside recognition should not be mentioned.  What about a page for Fleetwood Back?  A Fleetwood Mac tribute band from Scarborough which performs at Murray's? - Hahnchen 02:58, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Radiant. android  79  03:04, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails WP:MUSIC. Nandesuka 13:16, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Zoe, i.a. Dottore So 22:12, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, anti-Faroeism must cease and cease now. Failing keep, at least a redirect to music of the Faroe Islands would be nice. Proto t c 10:07, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment - Whereas I chose to delete this article. I am in favour of expanding music of the Faroe Islands to take into account the local music scene. - Hahnchen 15:13, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per WP:Music. Hamster Sandwich 21:37, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
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