Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  17:51, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi

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Does not meet WP:GNG, all sources are social media/held by article subject. Chrissymad ❯❯❯  Talk   19:30, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete as completely nothing at all here since both the information and sources are trivial and unconvincing and that's enough to state there, next is the fact there's still nothing for WP:AUTHOR or anything specific, hence delete as it's clear his career is not notable. SwisterTwister   talk  00:23, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep This person has contributed in multiple language - English, Hindi, Urdu, Arabic and Hindi, hence using the traditional English tools will probably not be helpful in determining notability. I don't have much knowledge on the person, but I've constructed an alternative version here in my sandbox from my own brief research. Would love to get in put on the existing version as well as the sandbox draft from you all. --Muzammil (talk) 19:23, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * comment are there other Wiki articles that read "his/her areas of interest are..."? I ask because it just seems off to me - not because of your writing but because it reads like a resume. What is wiki policy for notability on English wiki (or any language) if it can't be sourced in the language the article is created in?   Chrissymad  ❯❯❯  Talk   19:29, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking. One, I am not the creator this article. Two, I tried to create a second version and this is where I came across a vast number of articles authored by the person which roughly support the statement. As experienced editor, however, you can cut down the stuff, more so if there is any intention to take something from sandbox to main article.--Muzammil (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete This is a combination of WP:SYNTH and WP:NOT violatioins. It looks very convincing and was possibly done with site policies in mind for the sake of the sales pitch, but it's still an attempt to create an article about a non-notable person by projecting the image of proper citations. At the root of it, the subject fails WP:GNG when examining only the sources that can reasonably be verified to refer to the subject. There is no mainstream coverage (the subject's own articles don't count) so there isn't even a debate regarding sustained coverage. A noble effort and most likely in good faith, but it still fails. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:43, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete - I see three pages in the current references in the article about Dehlvi that I would use to make an article, one from caravan magazine, one from gulf news, and one from oneindia. There is another from gulf news that is basically the same as the one I listed, but it could be added. All of the rest are blogs, self-submitted material, or articles Gulvi wrote and I'd hesitate to put too much emphasis on them in a wikipedia article. With the three pages I listed, this is the article I would write: "Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi is a journalist and Islamic scholar in New Dehli. He is an advisor to the Jamia Hazrat Nizammuddin Aulia Madrasa in the Okhla neighborhood of New Delhi. He is a frequent commentator on Muslim affairs in media. He writes in Hindi, Urdu, and Arabic and has worked in translation." For such an article I would be neutral. My guess is that it would not pass an AfD, but it would have been less likely to be nominated. The article as it stands reads like a promotional piece, over-cites the authors own work, and talks about a bunch of other issues only tangentially related to Dahlvi. In my opinion, the article should be deleted or drastically changed. The proposed new version at User:Hindustanilanguage/sandbox3, does not overcome the issues and its inclusion would not change my !vote. To the author(s), I want to point out the essay, Coatrack articles, which says, "Articles about one thing shouldn't mostly focus on another thing." In this case, it means that an article about a journalist shouldn't mostly focus on the journalists beat or the issues the journalist writes about. Smmurphy(Talk) 15:22, 12 December 2016 (UTC)


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