Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gianfranco Facchineri


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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 08:06, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Gianfranco Facchineri

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Fails WP:NFOOTY as the player has not yet played in any Tier 1 International Match, in a competitive senior international match at confederation level regardless of whether or not the teams are members of FIFA, or the Olympic Games or in a competitive game between two teams from fully professional leagues. Just being signed to an MLS side does not qualify for notability. Feel free to userfy the article to my space if the nomination is upheld. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:26, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep I disagree with the deletion of this article. The article fits WP:GNG, has multiple secondary sources reporting on it, and is almost assured to make his professional debut in the Canadian Championship this coming season. I think designating the article as a stub would be appropriate. I can't see the deletion of the article being helpful/a necessary action whatsoever. Kcnaleac
 * How does it meet GNG? Two of the references in the article are clearly associated with the subject and my WP:BEFORE turns up only passing mentions or WP:ROUTINE coverage with https://nationalpost.com/sports/soccer/windsors-facchineri-signs-contract-with-mls-vancouver-whitecaps/wcm/b14d1ef6-9dc4-4479-b3c8-94a176b2f839 being the one exception. He will likely be notable some day, but as for now, it's WP:TOOSOON. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:35, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete not enough indepdent sources to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:10, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Two of the three footnotes here are to his own team's self-published website about itself, which is a directly affiliated primary source, not a secondary source — and the only footnote that is a secondary source is a piece of "local kid does stuff" human interest coverage in his own hometown newspaper, which is not in and of itself enough to hand him a free pass over GNG in the absence of any other media coverage. And we also don't keep articles just because the subject might go on to clear our notability bars in the future, because literally everybody on earth could always claim that we have the possibility of clearing a notability standard someday — so the notability test is not based on predictions about what might happen in the future, but on what's already true today. So no prejudice against recreation in the future if and when he has accomplished something that clears NFOOTY, but nothing here is already enough as of today. Bearcat (talk) 00:17, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 11:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm torn. He's not expected to debut until July, despite being on the worst MLS team in the Canadian Championship User:Kcnaleac? On the other hand, there's two half-decent sources above or in the article – one in a national paper. one two. Nfitz (talk) 01:27, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - I found a third in-depth detailed source - two minute feature about a month ago on CTV three. I added to the article, along with some routine references That meets GNG. Nfitz (talk) 02:34, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:ROUTINE, local sports coverage. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:44, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Nothing routine about a feature like that. One of the three sources is national. I'm not even sure how local is an argument. Nfitz (talk) 03:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry. The coverage at windsor.ctvnews is the local coverage. Both are routine. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:50, 5 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak delete (2nd choice) or, as an alternative to deletion, Draftify (1st choice) as none of the above sources meet our definition of in-depth and at length coverage about the subject. Having said that, this video interview may qualify. As well, this article in the The Standard Freeholder might, which is why I would prefer to see this draftified and let it go through AfC where the AfC team can assess the sources and move back to the Main: namespace. Doug Mehus T · C  02:55, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


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